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meat prices and value for money

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PF, I'm not sure about their campaign, but I recently heard an
interview with one young lady from a station, who hopped on a boat
with the station cattle, for the 4 day trip to Indonesia.

Sounds like the cattle were a bit restless on the first day, until
they settled in and chomped their food all the way. Conditions
on board were much better then all the stories the press has been
on about. Sounds to me like those cattle were much better off,
then those being trucked from Western Australia to the East,
which happens frequently when the market price collapses here yet
again.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 9:19:00 AM
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A national network of young, passionate....

Yes they sure are showing the face of the industry Leroy and you have shown your lack of character.

Shame On Lach MacKinnon, Shame on Annabelle Coppin, Shame on Murray Grey, Shame on Atticia Grey, Shame on Dan Koric and Shame on Garry Robinson.

'You' are the shame Leroy encouraging such cruelty.

What’s more of a shame is =the shame that after three past enquiries- ALL of which recommended the evil barbaric trade was to cease immediately and it still continues!

You thumb your noses at RSPCA and other Animal Authorities.

I will put MLA on notice as of now that we pale will no longer tolerate this one eyed view and support for just one industry

MLA must put 'equal funding 'into our Ambassadors.

Now ‘we’ are promoting the red meat trade which provides value adding.
Btw the Abattoir association is correct by asking for an enquiry into MLA
I know I will be happy to give evidence.
W.lewthwaite

PS I am just wondering btw why the Land link isnt taking any more comments.

Nicky If you know the secret pass word to the rural press and the land I would really like it.
I know Taryn who is currently in WA and others who have tried to post on the rural press as well as the land have had the same difficluties as us tonight er I should say this morning.

If the Government are stupid enough to think we will all sit back and not protest the outragous attempt to discredit RSPCA they have another think coming.

The have already signed their death certificates for the next election.

No softly softly approach of the RSPCA or Animals Australia try as they may have.

This is now war we we answer to nobody but God and the suffering millions of Animals these low lifes exploit.

Its easy- if ya gonna killem killem close the the farm where the poor bastards were bred.

We aint as polite as the others you low life mongrels.

Halal Kind Meats
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 10 April 2008 2:14:09 AM
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To MLA

Dear Yvonne Farrol 10.4.2008

As you are aware I requested to know the amount of funding given under the program you are running.

I am referring of course to the young people allocated to promote live animal exports for the MLA. You call them Ambassadors.

My interests are of a commercial basis. However we are also concerned with young people being used to disrespect the RSPCA. I find that very concerning Yvonne.

As I explained to you by telephone HKM Halal Kind Meats have long lobbied MLA and Austrade and Regional and development grants for the same - as in equal support for our projects.

We are requesting equal funding for six Ambassadors of our choice to promote our project especially in our regional areas. We are happy to inform you we have MOUs with Aboriginal Elders and Muslim Leaders of Australia along with good relationships with much red meat industry

You refused to disclose the funds allocated to your project by telephone and requested I write to you.
I Wendy Lewthwaite request you disclose the amount of funding allocated to the project you are in charge of and note you stated to me you are very proud of and find exciting.

You went on to disagree with myself that this move was not in conflict of the projects run by RSPCA. RSPCA have tirelessly campaigned against live Animal Exports because of the cruelty involved. There have been no less than five separate segments on 60 Minutes regarding this issue. Also many other animal welfare groups have long protested the unnecessary transport of these animals.

As it happens however my interest and reason for contacting you is of one of equal and fair play between the industries.

I am director of Halal Kind Meats and require this information to further negotiate with the interested parties.
Please reply and disclose the full amount of funding allowed under your project including Car, Phone, Travel, Clothing Hairdressers and any other form of monies either paid directly or indirectly to these people. All advertising costs both here and overseas.
To Be Contiune
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 10 April 2008 10:48:49 AM
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In other words the full extent of your budget allocated to this project
We are meeting with heads of Halal Meats and Muslim Leaders quite soon and your early reply is looked forward to.

Wendy Lewthwaite
Director
HKM
Halal Kind Meats

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/stories/s593796.htm

Call For Inquiry Into Tasmanian Beef Industry

Tasmanian meat industry operators have sounded the alarm, as abattoirs cut jobs and increasing numbers of livestock are sent to the mainland for processing.

Smithton Meatworks operated by HW Greenhams in northwest Tasmania has told 21 workers they won't have a job from Friday.

And the head of the state's Blundstone Boot Factory, Doug Dickenson, wants an inquiry into the industry, after he was forced to go to Victoria to buy hides.

"Well we're very short of hides," he said. "We've expanded our operation in Tasmania. Blundstone's boot factory is extremely busy, require leather, and we're chasing hides. There ought to be an enquiry into the meat industry. The government ought to determine who they're going to support and who they're not."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/26/2199603.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/25/2198078.htm

http://www.mla.com.au/TopicHierarchy/News/MediaReleases/Meat+industry+votes+on+MLA+constitutional+debate.htm

http://www.wspa.org.au/ldt_handlewithcare/images/x_images/publicfiles/Report_LDT.pdf

Pale is calling on the resignation on heads of MLA and a complete new structure.
It is beyond the pale that MLA thumb their nose at RSPCA who are the Animal Welfare Authority of Australia.
I think this new Government has shown us their arrogance in many ways however this is without the most single largest mistake they have made to date.
In case MLA had not noticed RSPCA Animals Australia and hundreds of other Animal Welfare Organisations not only in Australia but world wide have rallied together for the banning of the evil barbaric trade for over twenty years.

The public are far more aware now of the truth that lies behind their unforgivable trade. That would be of course the old you scratch your back and I will keep your evil; trade alive despite the findings of no less than three enquiries in the past ALL of which found the discusting trade that only befenits a few must be bannned immediatly.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 10 April 2008 11:26:13 AM
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Hi all
My post in response to PF's seems to have disappeared into a black hole - but I said something along the lines that these people are over-indulged yuppies being subsidised with taxpayers' funds to promote cruelty. I understand that Ms Copping spent five minutes on the "Deneb Prima" (it may have been a remotely reasonable ship back then, but it is almost 30 years old and recent photos of it are pretty sad). It belongs to Siba Ships, whom Yabby extols as having such great ships.

It is now the "Stella Deneb", but before "Deneb Prima" it was the "Rodolfo Mata" and before that the "Ming Universe". Before that no-one can remember, but it was Chinese. It has had about 16 inspections in Australia and on each occasion it has been found to have up to 15 major defects. The last detention was in September 2007 in Port Adelaide for two days over fire hazards and safety issues. And this is supposed to be one of the better ones.

I cannot tell from Ms Coppin's record (www.liveexportcare.com) whether she hung around in Indonesia long enough to see how her much loved animals were handled and slaughtered, but it seems unlikely.

One of the other "ambassadors" was reportedly quite senior in Emanuels, I think it was, until a couple of weeks ago.

Yabby - tell me, should bright students who cannot pay university fees upfront be denied an education because they are not over-indulged yuppies? Everyone pays their fees at some point, you know. And what on earth are you going to do when we put a stop to the cross-continent transport of animals for slaughter too? Keep crying poor, or come up with a remotely sensible strategy like only breeding the number of animals you can "use" (rather than abuse) on your side of the country? And another one to fix the meat industry over there, or would two be too difficult?

PALE, I didn't know there was an access code or password for Rural Press, so I can't help you on that one, I'm afraid.

Cheers
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 11 April 2008 12:22:13 AM
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Nicky, no matter what MLA does or farmers do, you will spew your vitriol.
Ok, we have come to expect little else from you.

By what we know so far, you are against people farming livestock, or eating
meat, you are against feed lotting, transporting livestock, you are against
everything.

Rest assured, the world will continue with or without you :)

Fact is that Govts can’t legislate for rainfall and whilst it varies, livestock
will be moved around, as its in their interests not to starve.

I think that you mentioning subsidies is a bit rich. How much taxpayers
money is thrown at Universities each year? How many Australian students
land up paying for the full cost of their education? Yet we are still short of
doctors, dentists, accountants, etc. etc. Can’t you university people
do your jobs?

I think we are fortunate that most Australians and Govts realise that
we have a small band of animal liberation extremists, who make one
hell of a racket, in our tolerant society they are to be tolerated, but
taking much notice of all the vitriol would be rather pointless
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 11 April 2008 6:18:04 AM
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