But it seemed clear that the stress the devices cause the animal affect the meat. Any thoughts, Rehctub?
Yes nicky this can be the case.

A stressed animal has a build up of toxins (lactic acid) in the blood which when slaughtered causes high PH levels, which in turn cause the meat to be dark when cut. It is known within the industry as a ‘dark cutter’.

Interesting is the fact that this meat, although not appealing to look at, actually eats well in most cases however it has a shorter shelf life than regular meats.

If you have visited an abettor you will note that the cattle pass through a shower arrangement. Rather than to wash them, as is the perception, this devise actually is there to calm them down much like if they were out in the rain.

Belly
As I pointed out with one
of my lambs last year, in the end they paid me $16.85 for a
33 kg prime lamb carcass, which had just popped its teeth. Do
you really think it was any different in eating quality, to
other lambs?

Yes I do as this beast was at least 1 year old, had cut teeth and as such is no longer a lamb’. Now whether it is better eating than lamb, well that’s comes down to individual taste.

Just for the record, as hogget I would have paid $122.10 for it landed to my shop.

You have been ripped off mate

Three questions pls Rehctub.

How does a little lady trace back meats origin from plate to paddock?
Tags numbers are not issued per cut just carcass.

All carcases are inspected after slaughter for signs of disseise and condemned if found to be effected. Some prime cuts (MSA) are DNA tested and can be traced back even after cooking.

All carcases delivered to shops have tags on them, which contain bar codes and other information for trace back purposes. They are also stamped and heavy penalties are in place if these are not evident.

Do you know many other butchers who would be interested in working direct with a plant in WA if we could fund it?

Sorry, but from the picture yabby has painted who would want to go there. Perhaps Port Arthur was a bad choice for a penal colony hey!

Are all your cuts pre stunned or are some slaughtered Halal?

I don’t sell Halal however it is available but like most food items is open to substitution. Much the same way that organic meats are often substituted.

So in essence I guess all my cuts are 'pre stunned' . I don't mean to offend you but the majority of shoppers are price motorvated and don't care much for animal welfare. Unless of cause it is their pet. Many people today treat their pets better than the children. Sad but true.

*You have been ripped off mate*

My point exactly! What goes on in the West Australian meat industry
is a scandal, that should be investigated by some corruption
commission.

The local meat industry knows that it has farmers by the proverbial
testicles and can do what it likes. The lack of competition and
tyranny of distance protects them. That is why WA farmers support
the live trade. Its the only area where there is any kind of
competition going on.

Well Yabby, you could always move east :)

Hehe, not likely PF :) West Australia has far too many other good
points, to keep me here. It's Australia's go ahead state in
most ways, apart from processing of farm products. There are
historical and political reasons for that.

Alot would change, if Kim Chance got off his proverbial arse, just
a little bit.

Lots is happening and change will happen lol, even if we have to
drag them by their necks. A corruption inquiry into the meat
industry, IMHO would make the the AWB story look like a Sunday
school picnic.

You should know that I love a challenge :)

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Have we seen Dave's farm? it is about free range pig farming in I think England, and just about how pigs breed and lived in the NSW southern highlands.
He will go broke, sorry hope not but borrowed money is not wise in starting something new.
That is how pigs are farmed around here too.
Just a few but yes it is better but rehctub has got it right price is first concern for many.
Now if we could buy yabbys sheep? gladdy pay twice that price you are indeed a victim.
I just will not get into a slanging match, not worth it, but reality is often far from what some of us think it is,and I have every right to think as I wish.
Never said whips are ok, in fact my crimes are mostly inferred and untrue.
Deliberately so, it changes nothing my views remain not far from most in meat and live animal exports.
But if we are to be trained to say other than what we think so as not to fall out with one group what value has truth got?
Just a thought, NSW ABC radio this morning a cattle breeder spoke of green cattle, basically clean and cruelty free I would pay a premium for that but as rehctub said SUBSTITUTION takes place, how do we know it is truly that meat?