Tammy

I`m sure being a single parent would make you more of an expert on raising children than I.

Its amazing how the veggies trolling us disappeared new people are instead interrupting sensible discussions.


Unlike you we have had a team of qualified informed people along with lawyer’s whom have been working on the accreditation problems for six years.

It is complicated and you would need some background on Halal accreditation requirements and world trade as part of your background to fully understand the part the Government play in that.

I am posting on OLO in lay terms to inform the public of what problems within this country regarding this area so they understand fully what is going on in Australia.

All Governments world wide are the Father of all their people or should be. Clear messages are vital.

Fyi There is several Islamic Councils within Australia and many more worlds wide. It is important that our country and the people living in it are not dealing with people who hold extreme views whatever their faith.

The part you said makes no sense simply means that the Australian Government is changing laws especially for the more extreme Muslim to comply with their demands.

What I said very clearly was the Government is responsible to advise the Muslim Leaders or any other migrant leaders properly and not give mixed messages to both leaders and the Australian public.

If this is not done than the leaders are they Muslim or anybody else can not give clear guidance to their followers.

Trade is very much an issue with Muslim Leaders and none more than the supply of Halal Products.

If we bend to the demands of extreme people then we always have problems.
I think Dr Ali the X president of AFIC Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, best explained it by appealing to the government and media to be reasons bile when making comments on Halal food trade.

Best you go back and read some of his comments I or seek employment to occupy your time throughout your day.

PALE:

First of all- the fact I am a single parent has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. Do you hear me? Nothing at all. Zippo. Nada. Zilch.

Secondly- It certainly sounds to me like you are drawing a parallel and ignorant stereotype of me being a single parent and not being employed. You know nothing about me and don't you dare presume that you do.

I am going to stop here before I really say something I'll regret. In the meantime- talk to the hand.

Y'know PALEIF, we have both got on and got off.

Are we off again? You may not like the response from TammyJo, but what was the 'single-parent'/'get a job' thing all about?

Those comments are really below the belt, and frankly if you are female/s or have female/s there it is a particularly tacky and bitchy thing to do to another female.

You ARE prolific poster/s, and hold your own most of the time, whether I agree with you or not.

Why did you have to resort to that kind of thing? It's low.

Ginx
You’re correct. I just read it myself. I was angry with Tammy’s continual interruptions and nasty comments aimed at us. So I retaliated with the first thing that came into my head.

Tammy

Of course I don’t think all single Mums are ill informed lazy etc. I apologize if I upset any single mums where those comments do not apply- sincerely.

I also apologize to Foxy if she’s reading this because she asked everybody to be nice to one another.






Please allow us to tell the public what arrangements the Government makes with Muslim dealers of Halal products behind the publics back and then I suppose our jobs done.

For those of you who think oh, there go those animal welfare nutters again I absolutely assure you this goes beyond just animal welfare.

It goes to the root of our society. Do you know the Government has zero regard for the Australian people? Basically they see themselves as people on a higher level than us that they must suck up to before elections.
Why is the government allowing special conditions that are against RSPCA recommendations for Muslims to kill animals without pre stunning?

Why are we not in charge of whom we do trade with?

You wouldn’t have to be too bright to figure out if many Muslims accept pre stunning being moderate and civilized then the other orders are going to the more extreme people would you.

We just witnessed the biggest enquiry held in Australia being AWB but we didn’t year one word from anybody including Kevin Rudd that they were also exporting live animals.

Ask yourself why. AWB are still exporting live animals but us anybody bothered to check if the delivery arrangements have changed.
Of course not!

The Government are supporting behind the publics back one rule for us and one rule for others.

How on earth are we ever going to mix and understand each other with mixed messages coming from our Government.


Lies and more lies from the Government

What else is new- nothing what so ever has changed.

PALE,
Was pleased to see your apology to Tammy Jo. Your commets were unneccesary and totally out of order. Untill your apology I had decided not to further engage wuth you. This incident did however, remind me to be very carefull not to disclose any personal information on OLO.

I have interupted you also and I am frustrated in that you have on several occasions said the Government is sending mixed messages to muslims but you have not said what they are. The only one mentioned so far is about Islamic slaughter. Even now you went off on a tangent about AWB.

Would you please get on with it and tell us what you are talking about.

I read that as an avoidance of an apology to Tammy Jo, actually - but what's new about PALE&IF being gratuitously rude to people who question their convoluted ideas and often dubious claims?

Speaking of unnecessary comments, Banjo -

Banjo: "they find they cannot lawfully eat dog meat, dolphin or other foods they used to be able to"

Truly bizarre. Examples and evidence please?

"When they ask friends about FGM, for example, they are told 'Don't worry, we just do it and the Government doesn't care'"

Was this just a typically xenophobic rant, or do you actually have examples? Who exactly has said what you claim they have said?