"I cant see by upsetting the many Muslim reading this will help the Animals"

Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 8 March 2008 9:03:57 AM
Morgan

pale comments
Nobody is imune from public accountabilty. Why on earth do you think we posted our honest comments in the first place for heavens sake.
If people do not honour their agreements especially as leaders then they should be held to account.
We are asking leaders of AFIC to repond to their breech of trust and breaking our MOU.

Not all Muslim Leaders or x leaders have upset us Morgan.
There are many who happen to agree with us.

Regadless I am not going to walk on egg shells or treat them any different to any other member of the Australia people.

So your imagination runs away with you if you think my posts are here for any other reason other than (as they say to keep the bastards honest.)

We will talk again,. We always do and each blue brings us closer.
Someone normally rings and say hery Guys Merry Christmass.
Thats the way of it.
The stakes are very high at the moment. We cant comprimise on animal welfare but its fair to say we need to also listen a bit more to why they believe no pre stunning is kinder.

Despite many screaming I am at least prepaired to listen.

We of course would love the local plants with humanh sl;aughtering introducuing gas to large beasts. A big job.
I think if we work together we can pull it offer.

Like everything there is nothing wrong with anybody bar the intention. But you would know all about that Morgan wouldnt you:)


David I hasve no beef with you other than the fact as I said several times we invited you to contact us re attending meetings alone with us tro meet with Aussie Muslim Leaders.

We just thought you might gain some insite but you ignored our posts and went on about some Islamic thing in far off p-laces.
Your choice. No worries.

Er, PALE&IF - they were your words originally. I was quoting them back to you as an example of your hypocrisy. Now you've quoted them to make it look as if it it was me that made that comment originally - tortuous grammar and all.

It's more than a little dishonest to attribute statements to those who didn't actually make them in the first place. What you said, in the post before I quoted you, was

"Now you don’t really want me to explain to you about Muhammad on Urine surely do you?
I cant see by upsetting the many Muslim reading this will help the Animals Nicky.
Lets leave poor old Muhammad and his Urine problems alone shall we."
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=1547#29765

Do try and be honest in future.

CJ Morgan
Originally we were instructed not to repond to you. However to me that seemed a bit rude.
I wasnt brought up that way and it didnt sit too well with other members so we tried to include you in our comments and even exchanged a few jokes alone the way with you.

However you seem to have very little input on olo other than as we said before bardge in with one or two lines nasty digs at whoever is the target for that day thread or whatever.

Now if anybody is qualified not only on this thread but within Australia to join in on this thread it would have to be us.

Put in its most simply form Morgan as far as I am aware AFIC have not entered into MOUs with other Aussies and espeically regarding Animal Welfare and Halal Abattoirs which they play a huge part in. Thatt is as I see it part of the problem.

Many people think they are just off to their Mosque or Islamic schools and playing little other part in this country . Far from it.

Now as per usual you have offered nothing to the topic of the thread and for once I wouldhave to say we were well advised when the CEO requested we do not exchange posts with you..

We will just leave it at that. I have far more important things to do with my time.
Its difficult enough getting the hours in the day to do our work pluss post on a forum without throwing it out the door mucking around with people who seem to have some sort of personality problem.

You have zero concern for Animals Morgan and for some reason you seem to think people are interested in your nasti little remarks.

pale isnt one of them

I think PALE&IF should follow their CEO's orders. I also agree that they probably have much better things to do with their time than making "People Against Live Exports and Intensive Farming" look really silly on this forum.

Hi all
Just so we are all clear about what it is PALE wants to sue me (or whoever, in its deluded mind, it thinks I am), or have sanctions imposed on me for, here is my comment and PALE's response:-

This is to refresh PALE's extremely erratic memory and interpretation, and it is its OWN comment (note especially about "telling Middle Eastern people how to live". The sad grammar, spelling and punctuation are PALE's, not mine and I remain mystified about "fish" but suspect she/they meant "finish")

"And here you are again nicky saying>
“There is nothing "moderate" about FGM. There are degrees in severity, but it remains mutilation. In those countries, female rape victims are often publicly flogged and/or stoned to death, and other miscreants are dealt with extreme severity”

Pale comments Ooow that ought to help fish relationships.
Well done! Since when was it up to us to tell ME people how to live?"

Finally PALE claims to be in the best position to comment for the Muslims - I would contest that on the basis that the best people would be the Muslims themselves. And David's comment was not too far off either, about the repercussions from the Muslim community when there is talk of tightening anti-terrorist and other related legislation.

Cheers
Nicky

Nicky

Nobody mentioned sueing you. We asked for you to remove the comment that pale supported FGM. For goodness sake we didnt even send it to the OLL staff. Instead we were very poliite in requesting you remove it yourself.

You come on OLO claiming you are a animal lover. I find it interesting however when we posted about the complaint to Graham young from the WA live exporters you were not even interested.
I would have thought that would have been of some interest to you and Animals Australia etc.

I guess it just goes to show one thing and that is our CEO is correct about more than one thing.

I put it to you you if you were a sincere animal lover you would not be trolling and picking at the different people= all good people that post as not only members of the public but at times members of pale.

I sent the information down to lyn White regarding The director of Emanuel Brothers, being named by us on olo.

It seems to be something that bothers these people. I spoke at lenghth with John who expressed some agreement with what our organisations is doing regarding reopening plants.

As far as anything to do with the Muslim Leaders of this country is concerned Nicky its clear not one of you understand we have no intention of treating them any differntly that any body else.

They are bright enough to figure it out so long as we are a hundred percent straight with them.

RSPCA QLD and PALE have enjoyed many meetings with them. It would be fair to say pale more than RSPCA QLD although they do support of course the reopening of Ozzie plants to divert live to chilled.

Yes I make typing errors considering I only post her in my spare time. That AFTER a twelve hour unpaid day self funded to help animals.

Unless you enter threads to discuss Animal Welare we have zero interest in posting with your company in mind.