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Posted by Fester, Sunday, 29 October 2023 2:44:38 PM
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Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 29 October 2023 3:13:28 PM
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Thanks Foxy. I note that his depravity wasn't celebrated by Israelis like Palestinians did with October 7, nor did he excitedly ring his mum and dad and get responses like, "God be praised. Well done son. Come home safe.".
Now how do the Hamas terrorists conduct on 7 October compare with the depravity of Tarrant and Breivik? Posted by Fester, Sunday, 29 October 2023 3:36:13 PM
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Fester,
I'm not interested in comparing depravities. Truth is not hard to see if you open your eyes. What interests me is - trying to find solutions to the conflict. Not add to it. If you want to compare - you will find terrorist groups and individuals on both sides. Just do a Google search. Even Wikipedia covers this subject. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 29 October 2023 3:45:54 PM
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Dear Critic,
«I wouldn't be at all surprised if this thing turns into a huge war in the coming days.» Yes, it is all possible. But not that likely. In fact, I think that you so much expect the war to expand that you will be surprised if it does not. «The stated goal of Israel is to destroy Hamas, but this is not possible without annihilating Gaza,» Here you may indeed be surprised - I think it possible and I think it will happen. It is very hard now on the people of Gaza, but I think that after the war, they (both those who survive and those who will die, just sadly excluding those who are badly maimed in this war) will be much happier than they have been in decades. Under Hamas, Gazans cannot leave, death penalty for using any drug, 6 years imprisonment for getting pregnant out of wedlock, police refuse to assist women who are beaten by their husbands: http://video.vice.com/en_us/video/crime-and-punishment-in-the-gaza-strip/5762f259977db15c3994ccd4 This is an old clip - conditions have even worsened since. Gazans deserve better - and now they will get better! «The US has assembled at least 73 ships in the Mediterranean, the largest naval force in over half a century. - Should we believe this is for Gaza? Not likely.» Very true. The US is trying to deter others from joining. I very much hope that their deterrence be successful. «America and even Israel have military bases everywhere.» True, Anthony Albanese and my mother in law rule Australia... «The US has not tried to reign Israel in, so that means Israel has US approval to kill children.» True, Israel has the approval - but not any such desire. Sorry for this inconvenience, maybe you will just have to continue watching the killing of Ukrainian children instead. Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 29 October 2023 4:10:54 PM
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Dodging the question Foxy. Mass murderers like Tarrant, Breivik and Goldstein are demonised for their depravity. Hamas terrorists are celebrated by Palestinians, and you think the problem lies with Israel.
If you look at the motivation of Breivik and Tarrant, you will see that they were motivated by the same xenophobic hatred as the Palestinians have toward the Jews. You expect the Israelis to negotiate with people who celebrate depraved violence against them and will not accept options for Jewish people in Israel other than leave or be killed. To say that the Israelis have to compromise with such hatred is the same as asking those hated by Tarrant and Breivik to compromise with the hatred directed at them. You don't compromise with hatred Foxy. Posted by Fester, Sunday, 29 October 2023 5:24:34 PM
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How would you compare the Hamas terrorists who went into Israel on October 7 with the likes of Brevic and Tarrant?