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Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 29 October 2023 9:00:13 AM
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The US and Israel seem to be at war with the whole world.
The US is at war with the world, trying to keep together it's crumbling empire. The world is moving towards a multipolar world and the US wants to cling to its unipolar world, which many nations reject. The vote at the UN General Assembly on Friday relating to a ceasefire and humanitarian pause to the Israel / Palestinian conflict saw 120 nations in support, 14 against and 45 abstentions. UN General Assembly adopts Gaza resolution calling for immediate and sustained ‘humanitarian truce’ http://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142847 Israels response: "Today is a day that will go down in infamy. We have all witnessed that the UN no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance." said Israel's permanent representative to the UN. http://twitter.com/giladerdan1/status/1718024766106309061 ... Meanwhile, there are a million Muslims marching in London http://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1718250582698328408 http://twitter.com/claudeelkhal/status/1718235491571535946 There are huge protests going on everywhere right now. Paris, United States, Turkey, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, India, Pakistan, Iran - Just about everywhere you can think of, but it's not on TV. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 October 2023 11:21:58 AM
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A million on the march in London !
It only needs one charismatic orator to fire them up. Aside from the usual "Demos for Anything" crowd the majority seem to be Arabs. What have we wrought ? If a "real" war broke out where would those "citizens" stand ? Would they take up arms ? In the US there are plenty of arms. Not so much here or UK, but armouries could be raided. The security services are I hope taking note of all this. Where are Albo's 600,000 immigrants this year coming from ? What could possibly go wrong ? Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 29 October 2023 12:25:51 PM
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Bezza,
According to the Department of Home Affairs the top 10 Country Profiles list for Australia is: 1) India. 2) People's Republic of China. 3) United Kingdom. 4) Philippines. 5) Nepal. 6) Vietnam. 7) New Zealand. 8) Hong Kong. 9) Pakistan. 10) South Africa. There you go. Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 29 October 2023 12:49:23 PM
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if this thing turns into a huge war in the coming days.
The stated goal of Israel is to destroy Hamas, but this is not possible without annihilating Gaza, The US has not tried to reign Israel in, so that means Israel has US approval to kill children. The US has assembled at least 73 ships in the Mediterranean, the largest naval force in over half a century. - Should we believe this is for Gaza? Not likely. We may even see NATO V's NATO. - As Erdongan has come down in support of Hamas. We have Russians flying Mig-31's with Kinzhals in the Black Sea and will support Iran and Syria if they are attacked. We might even see a coming together of Sunni and Shia Muslims against Israel and the US. America and even Israel have military bases everywhere. I can see a long drawn out conflict which is not in either Israel or Americas interests, not even with the aim of defeating them, but constant smaller attacks using missiles and drones that never let up. And if oil stops flowing out of the middle east, all western economies and their leaders will fall as time passes. The US is the big tough bully, but he expends a lot of energy doing anything and can be worn down if done so slowly and carefully. The Ukraine war has been Putin's trash compactor to de-militarise the West. They are not prepared to fight long wars. Time is their greatest weakness. Now we might see Muslims enraged and on the march in all cities across the globe as well, including western ones. The coming days could see things escalate significantly. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 October 2023 1:20:54 PM
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It may be that Israel and Americas solution to Gaza / Hamas is War on Iran
Netanyahu's been carrying on about it for 15 years The US has been peed off with Russia ever since they ruined their plans to overthrow Syria. Hold on to your seats folks. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 October 2023 1:39:08 PM
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«Could we be arrested for hate crimes ?»
For hate crimes one has to hate. I don't.
I also don't believe that anyone can be arrested in Australia or the UK for citing scientific papers.
Whether Muhammad existed or otherwise, there are some Muslim people who use Islam for their betterment, who select the nice verses from the Koran to improve their character and come closer to God - and turn a blind eye to the rest. We obviously know also of other Muslims, as well as Christians and Jews, who seek evil and are adepts in choosing specific scriptural passages that advance their sinister desires.
I believe that Muslims can be good for Australia because when the time comes, they will fight to defend Australia from China like no Westerner would - because they know well what happened to the Uighurs and are determined not to end up like them!