Good article Foxy,

http://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/15/us/american-evangelicals-israel-hamas.html

"American Evangelicals we're told are among Israel's
most ardent supporters, compelled in part by their
interpretation of scripture that says God's ancient
promise to the Jewish people designated the right as their
homeland and that this is unbreakable."

Christian Zionists are the worst.
They further the cause of their own demise.

And they are idiots too.
The Jewish claim to the land under God is not unconditional.
It was a covenant that those Jews act as righteous people not as oppressors.
Fail to heed God's word results in God coming back to punish them.

There's a verse in the bible that says you reap what you sow.
It's just as much an ethical idea as a religious one.
So if Israel wants to keep up the bs, it's going to get what's coming to it.

"When Trump stacks his cabinet with warmongering scumbags..."

Warmongering scumbags....who didn't in 4 years start any wars and closed down a couple. Struth what a dill.

AC, you might find this useful... http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/logic

The Jewish migrants have only ever been given two options by the resident population: Leave or be killed. Peaceful coexistence and/or separate state options have never been accepted. There is no more reason to bring others into the argument as there is with any other hateful and intolerant anti-immigration movement.

Hi Armchair Critic,

Back to the topic of religion and - US support of Israel.

Brookings Institute has an article that tells us that there
does appear shifting attitudes towards Israel in the United
States. We're told that it is evangelical attitudes towards
Israel that account for most of the Republican Party's support
for Israel.

They say that without evangelicals republican attitudes on
Israel do not substantially deviate from the rest of the
United States.

Israeli Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer said that
Israel should spend more time reaching out to "passionate"
American evangelicals. And Israel's former consul-general
in New York Dan Dayan critically added that
" our embassy in the US
capital has invested much of its energy in its relationship
with conservative Republican evangelicals, and a certain type
of Jew only.

It appears that younger evangelicals are much less supportive
of Israel than older evangelicals by a widening margin.

There's much more at:

http://brookings.edu/articles/as-israel-increasingly-relies-on-us-evangelicals-for-support-younger-ones-are-walking-away-what-polls-show/

The summary given is:

"The bottom line is that there is evidence of a substantial
and unusual shift. If the Israeli right is pinning its hopes
on solid support from evangelicals as the backbone of US
patronage of the Jewish state anchored by a biblical
narrative that sidesteps international laws and norms - as
witnessed during the Trump administration - the trends among
young evangelicals raise questions about the trajectory
of strong religiously-driven evangelical support for Israel."

According to some you would never realize America has the largest number of Jews outside Israel. Any decent Christian supports a decent democracy and Israel is the only democratic State in the Middle East. What is rising in America is the New World Order and wokeism as taught in Universities, these are signs of the anti-Christ.

Hi Josephus,
I should probably pick your statement above apart, but I'm not sure I have the time right now.
So many keywords and phrases there to drill down on like:

'Any decent Christian' 'decent democracy' 'Israel is the only democratic State in the Middle East' 'New World Order' 'wokeism' 'signs of the anti-Christ'.

Let's just start with 'Any decent Christian' shall we?

I'm not religious, I'm an 'agnostic' btw - a fencesitter.
I say 'I don't know' and if God really is real, then he knows I'm stuck on a technicality which says 'thou shalt not bear false witness';
So if God does exist, then he knows my heart and where I'm at.
But ultimately I don't know...

But I digress...

'Any decent Christian'...

'Do you really think democracy comes first' in the Christian order of priorities?
Whatever happened to: 'God First-Family Second-Church Third'?
Some might argue that this all seems a little complex...

So if it doubt, what a decent Christian would do this...

They ask themselves 'What would Jesus do?'

- And I'm fairly sure Jesus wouldn't be leveling buildings with smart bombs.
At a guess, he'd probably be there in Gaza trying to lend a hand to the widow, the wounded, and the newly orphaned.
- He actually preferred to hang out with the downtrodden, so I'm told.

If they aren't doing that, then they're not 'decent Christians',
They may not even be 'Christians' at all, possibly