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U.S politics and religion adding to the Middle East crisis

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All this talk of ceasefire would be nice.
It reminds me of the phrase "Turn the Other Cheek".
Is there anyone who thinks it is at all possible ?
All it would get is a harder slap on the other cheek !

For the children in Gaza just blame Egypt for not forcing open the gate.
Posted by Bezza, Sunday, 29 October 2023 9:51:56 PM
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Fester,

I'm not dodging the question. I have answered it
by pointing out to you that there are extremists
in every group - be they Jews or Palestinians.
Be they Hamas or right-wing Zionists. Blaming
and finger-pointing at just one-side does not
achieve anything productive to resolve the conflict.

Also - not all Palestinians support Hamas. Same as not
all Jews support right-wing Zionism.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 30 October 2023 8:06:07 AM
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Hi Bezza,
"For the children in Gaza just blame Egypt for not forcing open the gate."
- No, I blame the people dropping the bombs on them.

Hi Foxy,
If you want a watch something that covers a fair bit of important info try this:

Israel Has Gotten Away with Too Much for Too Long
http://www.youtube.com/live/SPwlPSEGVr0
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 30 October 2023 10:40:11 AM
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US looks isolated after opposing UN resolution on Gaza truce
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/28/gaza-israel-truce-un-resolution-us
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 30 October 2023 10:41:14 AM
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Praying for Armageddon is a documentary out now highlighting the role of U.S Politics and religion there (whatever terms you use) and the impacts these people and elements are having in the Middle East.

They are having a huge impact and it is real.

View the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ehG6utzBM

Yes, there are a range of other playing factors, people, groups and impacts in the Middle East, but the impacts of what I have mentioned cannot be underestimated.

I was once bitten by a spider, that was also terrible in terms of the end results. I'm sure someone has been bitten by a spider in the Middle East and suffered terribly as a result, but it's not comparable.
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 12:12:36 PM
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Dear Nathan,

Professor Tor Hundloe explained things so well in his
book, "From Buddha to Bono," when he wrote:

"The vast majority of modern mainstream Christians, Jews,
and Muslims seek a better life on earth, rather than seeking
it in heaven. Even if they believe in heaven, they seek to
have a happy life on earth."

"Modern people with normal family and social relationships,
and an least partially rational view of how the world works
are not waiting for Armageddon, or a future coming of a
saviour."

"Nor are they waiting for anything else that exercises the
theological minds of fundamentalists."

"We need to keep in mind that the religiously-minded
modern person is not a "card-carrying" fundamentalist."

"The later are a tiny minority. Of whatever faith, a
psychologist would be likely to describe them to be of
unsound mind."

"Humanity cannot afford to have fundamentalists with their
fingers on the nuclear-war button."

"It is in this context of religious fatalism that we can
understand suicide bombers. They are acting rationally
according to their beliefs. So are the Christian "end-timers"
or evangelicals who so strongly support Israel's actions and
who would bring on Armageddon today if they could."

"They believe the end of time is near - there will be a great
battle - the battle of Armageddon in Israel - and the
Messiah will return to earth and govern for 1000 years and
all the world's Jews will be destroyed if they don't
convert to Christianity."

"Ironically, the Jews are needed to fulfil the Old Testament
prophecy, as they have to conquer all the so-called
"Biblical Lands" before Armageddon is possible."

"This helps to explain the unholy alliance between American
end-timers and Jewish fundamentalists.'

So much for the sad state of the world.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 3:40:55 PM
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