Fester,

"WE CAN'T BOMB OUR WAY TO PEACE!"

Foxy,

When you stop getting your information from filtered sources like the antisemitic ABC or your equally antisemitic cult party, you might get some inkling of the reality confronting Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXcQ892cKso

Fester,

My information comes from a wide variety of sources.
American, European, Us and from people who have
travelled, worked, and some still live in the region.
My parents taught me to always question the narrative.
This is what I've tried to do. I have also attempted
to maintain a balance and try not to take sides.
But the data coming through is horrible and it
is becoming heart-breaking.

I still feel though that blaming the blame game is not
going to see this tragedy end. Assigning blame now
needs to stop and attempts should be made to try to
resolve the situation to the satisfaction of both sides.

Hi mhaze,
So they keep telling us....and never supplying any evidence for it. Just assertion. Try this poll...its not perfect by any means but gives a hint at how popular Hamas really is...

Yeah I'd believe that.
I argued that there would be reasons for it too over on Foxy's thread
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=10249&page=0#353826

- It's really not rocket science, maybe more of a simple 'cause and effect'

Hi Fester,
I've actually seen videos of Israeli kids saying 'all the Arabs will one day be our slaves'.
I think the poisoned animosity-infused education exists on both sides but maybe a little more violent oriented on the Palestine side, though that would be a guess.
- Those kids say "I want to be a martyr when I grow up'

That said, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Israeli kids say
'I want to be a soldier in the IDF and kill the Arabs'.

Foxy, you got it wrong, the blockade, water ,electricity etc took
place AFTER the attack on Israel.
The fastest relief would be if Egypt opened the border to their
fellow moslem families and the UN could arrange assistance in that
part of Egypt. Israel would want to filter out the Hamas activists.
Then Israel and Hamas could sort it out.
For some reason, Egypt does not want the Gazans their next door
neighbours. I would have thought the Moslem Brotherhood would have
welcomed them. I wonder if we are seeing a split between Iran, Shia
and The Brotherhood Sunni at the base of it all.

Paul, no solutions I see. Well I do not blame you for that no one
else has got a solution either.
As far as the Koran is concerned I am no expert either but I can send
you a list of verses that may help.
When you compare the Bible, and I make no excuses there, you have
to remember that the old part is obsolete.
However the Koran is exactly as written, so they say, and to question
any part is blasphemy punishable by death.

Re fuel, a satellite photos shows a tank farm in the very south of
Gaza which I presume is where Israel says there is 500,000 barrels
in stock under control of Hamas.

Where will Albo's 600,000 migrants come from this year ?
What could possibly go wrong ?