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U.S politics and religion adding to the Middle East crisis

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One would have thought that Hamas and the Israeli Government are more than enough when it comes to causing a crisis in the Middle East and there seems to be no end to the current conflict.

What makes the situation worse however is direct interference from Christian fundamentalists in the United States and Republicans supported by such people.

It all seems absurd, but it is real, and it is actually happening. Christian fundamentalists play a huge role over numerous aspects of American society, life and world politics - including in the Middle East.

http://cufi.org/

Alarming is the role of fundamentalist Christian backed organisations in the United States destabilising the Middle East by among other things supporting aggressive Israeli settlers and forcing Palestinians out of their homes. It's shocking.

The fundamentalist Christian influence on Republican politicians, who tend to rely on the evangelical vote and such people/groups aiming to advance their agenda in terms of Israel only adds to the current crisis in places like Gaza and the Middle East.

With all of this in mind, what do we do here?
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 12:37:47 PM
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Don't forget pro Israel lobby groups such as AIPAC.

Not much can be done.
US neoconservatives like Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Haley, Graham etc. probably want use this Israel / Palestine conflict as a pretense to attack Iran, they all want more military funding and that's why Jim Jordon won't get US speaker.

Did you all know that Dwight D. Eisenhower's speech on the 'Military Industrial Complex' was actually written to say 'Military Industrial Congressional Complex', but the word 'Congressional' was removed?

These people want more wars and want to continue to rule the 'Unipolar' world in their own interests, and as we saw with the Nordstream pipeline their will even screw over their own allies and their citizens to ensure it.
They do not have 'partners' just subordinate vassal states.

Think of the 'Lion King' movie
The US is the lion king named 'Scar' that doesn't want to give up being the leader, and all it's western vassal states are the hyena's.
They all follow a script and attack the 'bad' nations.

These people can't be stopped, if they want wars there will be wars.
The only thing that will stop them is if the bite off more than they can chew, lose the fight and get a blood nose.

US needs ‘Department of Offense, not Defense’ to intimidate foes: Nikki Haley
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/22/713204/US-REPUBLICAN-HALEY--DEPARTMENT-OF-OFFENSE
Hawkish Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley has called for the creation of a “Department of Offense” instead of Defense to enable the US to instill fear in their foreign enemies and better enforce Washington’s belligerent foreign policy.

Take him out': Graham intensifies calls to assassinate Putin - FOX
http://youtu.be/UoRojyazmQc

US and Israel should bomb Iran: Senator Lindsey Graham
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231012-us-and-israel-should-bomb-iran-senator-lindsey-graham/

The US can't help itself to meddle in other nations internal affairs with a policy of threats, blackmail, liberal and military interventions.
- And it will go out of it's way to pick a fight with anyone that has the potential to rival it.
It's not going to give up it's position as world hegemon and strongers military superpower without a fight.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 2:18:04 PM
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The New York Times tells us that "Neutrality, isn't
an option," when it comes to Israel as far as
Conservative Christians are concerned in the United
States. Conservative Christians are said to have strong
connections and form the backbone of Republican support.

They are tied to beliefs about biblical promises and
prophecy. American Evangelicals we're told are among Israel's
most ardent supporters, compelled in part by their
interpretation of scripture that says God's ancient
promise to the Jewish people designated the right as their
homeland and that this is unbreakable.

How can one argue with God?

Seriously though, Evangelicals also see Israel's existence
connected to biblical prophecy about the last days of the
world before a divine theocratic kingdom can be established
on earth.

Evangelical leaders are now across the United States calling
for the support of Israel in sermons, public statements, and
calls for action.

No wonder the US politicians have to be carefull as to what
they say or do and who they choose to support.

If not Israel - you just may lose your job.

Religion in this case is indeed a powerful force. And how odd
is that? Giving support to a people whose religion does not
recognize their Christian God as their God or Messiah.

Weird - right?
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 3:12:07 PM
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According to some Christian prophecy 2024 is the date of Iran lodging a Nuclear Bomb in Jerusalem splitting the Hill in two.
Posted by Josephus, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 3:39:11 PM
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Now let's get this straight. The US (P)resident is a Democrat. The US Senate is Democrat. The US Secretary of State (equivalent to our Foreign Minister) is a Democrat who lied to get Biden elected. Until a few weeks back the head of the armed forces was a Trump hating Democrat (not sure about the current head, yet). The FBI is run by a Trump hating Democrat. The CIA also.

Yet the war and ancillary issues are caused by Republicans and their followers? Struth. Logic takes a holiday.

Might I point out that in those halcyon days of 2016-20 when the US was actually run by Republicans, there was no new wars, the Russian steppes were relatively quiet, the empire-builder in the Kremlin was cowed, Hamas likewise, Iran on the run and the Abraham Accords within sight of a true peace between Israel and leading Arab states.

All that was lost in November 2020, and the people Nathan et al are trying to exonerate (ie the Democrats and their anti-religion cohorts)
have royally screwed up whatever they've laid their hands on.

Trump wins in 2020 and there's no war on the Russian steppes, no war in Gaza, Taiwan safe, South Korea too. Biden wins in 2020 and we see the outcome. But the usual crowd are anxious to look elsewhere.
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 8:51:51 AM
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Democrats... Republicans...
That argument stinks like a tradies used pair of socks.

Uniparty.
Military Industrial 'Congressional' Complex.
Neoconsevatives.
Zionists.

Wake up and smell the real America you fool.

When Trump stacks his cabinet with warmongering scumbags like John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley, McMaster etc and bumchums up to Lindsay Graham...
- Then whatever party is in office makes little difference.

Stop sniffing the dirty socks, and try to see the bigger picture for once
If you can't do that then you're a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 9:14:22 AM
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