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Is not Allowing Ukraine to join NATO the right decision?

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Hi AC,

You have linked Macgregor many times. He regularly makes false and misleading claims which are used by Russian media.

https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-how-russia-uses-retired-us-colonel-s-ukraine-misinformation-for-domestic-propaganda-/6972765.html

Putin argues that if only his concerns were allayed, there would be no conflict. That is the argument of a terrorist, and Putin has such a reputation for dishonesty that diplomacy is pointless with him.

The decision to prosecute a war in Ukraine is Putin's choice alone, at least while his army is able to hold back the Ukrainians.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 15 July 2023 9:53:09 AM
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Dear Fester,

Hopefully the Russian people will eventually rise up
and get rid of the tyrant who's also causing them so
much harm.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 15 July 2023 10:04:44 AM
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War is probably never good guys against bad guys. The chief determinant (not the only one) of which army you serve in is which side of a national boundary are you a citizen. In WW2 democratic Finland was on the side of the Nazis. The US army was segregated as black and white soldiers were in separate units. The present war in Ukraine is no exception. The war probably could have prevented by having Ukraine committed to neutrality between Russia and NATO, but it's too late for that now.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 15 July 2023 11:05:47 AM
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It's hard to be neutral when your country is
being invaded and your people are being
murdered, tortured and killed all because a
tyrant wants the old empire back. No wonder
nearby countries want to protect themselves
and their borders.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 15 July 2023 11:15:55 AM
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Dear Foxy,

Neutrality for Ukraine is a matter of the past. It is not a present option. Ukraine and Russia are at war. In the present:

1. Prevent a wider war.
2. End the carnage.

Building up NATO can be a step to a wider war. That would not be in our interest.
Posted by david f, Saturday, 15 July 2023 12:10:18 PM
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Dear David,

So what's the solution? Giving Putin what he wants?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 15 July 2023 12:36:17 PM
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