Hamlet - I do recall Menachem Begin.

I do recall his involvement with the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem and was hunted for terrorist acts by the British (of which, by birth, I am one). I further recall he worked his way through the Israeli democratic processes to become Prime Minister of Israel (1977).

If I am allowed to quote Wikipedia

“Begin’s first significant achievement as (Israels) Prime Minister was to negotiate the Camp David Accords with President Sadat of Egypt, agreeing on the full withdrawal of the Israel Defense Forces from the Sinai Peninsula and its return to Egypt in 1978.”

– for which he and Sadat were jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

I would support the sentiment of 2Bob’s post, to make it clearer

Where the Israelis were working toward the creation of something, a Jewish state, Hezbollah (and Hamas) are working for the destruction something, the Jewish State.

Let the merit of anything be seem in terms of its intentions,

I for one would observe, those who work toward creation and betterment of things (and when needed, defend it) deserve our support.
Those who work solely toward the destruction of others (Hezbollah and Hamas) deserve their own destruction.

As for the medium of administration of Lebanon by France, - pure nit-picking on your part.

I am sure most Lebanese would welcome even the French back, compared to the terror of the Syrian secret police and their lackeys, Hezbollah

Israel has nuclear weapons and, I fear, the political will to use them.

It is time for the killing to stop.

I feel sick when hearing that so many people were killed in this place or that. How about we hear names and details of the people killed instead of abstract numbers.

Would we be able to argue in the abstract political genre if the deaths were reported like - Sarah, infant daughter of ... or Joseph, father of ... and grandfather to Sarah...

Or Private ..., father of ... and ..., husband of... son of ... and ... of Smallville California.

Real people are dying and being maimed and while this madness of war continues the young learn to hate very early.

Would the supporters of Israel be happy if they were given land in Australia or America to create an elitist Zionist state that is ever hungry for land, water and power?

The Australian webpage http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19925375-601,00.html has an article that states:
"A UN report released last night said the peacekeepers were told during each of the calls that the bombing would cease, but they were then hit by a precision-guided missile.

The attack came a day after hospital officials in southern Lebanon accused Israel of deliberately targeting ambulances clearly marked with the red cross, killing more than a dozen civilians, including children."

This is not conflict or war - it is COLD BLOODED MURDER.

That America, Australia and the UK can support the Israelis demonstrates the moral banckruptcy of its leaders.

This killing is not religion based - it is power and greed based - providing a light entertainment opportunity for bloggers to sing the praises of murderers.

Please do not bring God's name into any argument supporting this madness.

I am so embarrassed. Hear, hear, three chears to Boearz. My thinker engine is right hear next to my other brain cell. So what? You never done a typo? Throw ya'stones Boaz ya' big daft tosser (:.

You read Matthew 19:19. It pretty well makes Abraham redundant (to a degree).

Yours is a racist interpretation of the Bible.

Why does your God chose people who reject Jesus' Words? Wouldn't he choose them according to their behaviour. Don't tell me that the fighter pilots who are killing ordinary civilians consult Isaiah when they dump their deadly loads on families.

Isaiah Ch. 59 applies to Ehert Ohmet and the current gang of terrorists.

"Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

"But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins, and your sins hide his face from you that you will not hear.

"For your hands are defiled with blood; and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perversness.

"None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies, they conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity
...
Note in particular Ch 59: 6,7. It describes Israels current behaviour to a tee.

"Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works; their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands;

"Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; and wasting and destruction are in their paths.

"The way of peace they know not: and there is no judgement in their going: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth there shall not know peace.

This is pretty well Israeli rulers to a tee.

Then there is the "blessed are the peace makers" passage.

Which tells me that those who put on the "armour of righteousness" are not amongst the current crop of Israeli warmongers. Probably be those Israeli peace protestors.

Boaz sorry about the "hear, hear" thingo. I thought the quotation marks around 'here' were in reference to a mistake I noticed in one of my blogs where I had made a typo and spelt "here" as "hear". Just in case you were wondering.

Aka,

You obviously do not like Israel and Israel has nuclear weapons exactly to defend itself from people like you who wish to destroy it - otherwise it would be extinct long ago and I'm not sure you would be as eager to recite their names and relations, after all they are not "real people", so you are probably not interested in this: http://www.israel.org/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+since+2000/In+Memory+of+the+Victims+of+Palestinian+Violence+a.htm

The accidental killing of 4 UN peacekeepers was terribly tragic (do they also have names and relations, or only Arabs?) and Israel is deeply sorry for its intelligence error that wrongly identified their building as hostile, but how well you described yourself: "This killing is not religion based - it is power and greed based - providing a light entertainment opportunity for bloggers to sing the praises of murderers."

Would the supporters of Arabs be happy if they were given land in Australia or America to create an elitist Islamic state that is ever hungry for land, water and power?

- If Israel falls, this is exactly what will happen next.

Anyway, no point to continue because when irrational hate prevails, no amount of words and facts can make a difference.