Israel is a mistake, and now its going rogue. Failed? Not yet, mainly because its a heavily subsidised religious Disneyland.

The leaders in DC, London and Canberra who back Israel are out of touch, they live in a fantasy cloud landthat only real power can create, for the ability to project real power is the begining of hubris.

Israel has about ten years in it, maybe fifteen. The real quesiton is how many human beings are going to die before the truth is admitted, and allowed to set us free.

Israel is a mistake.

Meika,

By your logic, surely Australia is also a mistake: after all, its intended purpose was a convict colony and since by today's moral standards it is wrong to sentence a person for 14 years of hard labour because they were hungry and stole a loaf of bread, so should Australia disappear in 10-15 years... Inshallah.

Whatever the Zionist roots of Israel - right or wrong, and whatever the convict roots of Australia, the fact is that both countries are now home to millions who only wish to live peacefully in a modern and free democratic state - something that extremist islam would never allow.

You know well (but perhaps you grin about it) that if Israel falls, Hezbullah and their Iranian masters will not stop at that: Europe and then Australia will be the next in line in preparation for the ultimate attack on the Big-Satan, the U.S.A. to attain Islamic world-domination.

Australia should consider the current war in the middle east as our own front line. Had Europe and Australia been fully educated about the real intentions and capabilities of the Hezbullah, we would not consider even a nuclear bomb as "over-reaction".

One point must be made clear:
Yes, there is an Arab/Palestinian-Israeli conflict going on for nearly 100 years and we may have different views about it, but that conflict will have to wait because the current war is a different story that goes well beyond it: Iran and Hezbullah are not Arabs, they are the enemies of both Israel and Arabs and practically everyone else. Yes, they may cynically use the Israeli-Arab conflict to divide-and-conquer, but once they win over Israel, they will do the same to the Suni Arabs, including the Palestinians which they currently flatter (not to mention the poor Christians of Lebanon), but really care nothing about (Nasrallah even declared openly to the Arabs that he "does not care about them").

For our children to live, Iranian terrorist cancer must be totally uprooted, better before it acquires nuclear weapons.
We are most fortunate that this war occurs now and not in 2-3 years.

Sage there is no such thing as an asylum shopper except in the enfeebled brain of Philip Ruddock and those who support him. The fact is that in the refugee convention there is this little clause that Ruddock forgot to tell you about - that is that if people have EFFECTIVE protection in another country they are not entitled to protection here. The very fact that 98% of the so called asylum shoppers are now permanent residence as genuine refugees gives the lie to the shopper tripe once and for all I would have thought.

In Sydney is a man who was with Ariel Sharon during the massacres of Shatila and Sabra in 1982 who has never been charged for his heinous crimes, never been locked up in detention and has made a free life in our country for 13 years. He will never be charged.

While he lived freely in the community a lovely young man named Akram Al Masri and then Mohammed Al Kateb, appealed to the courts for release from detention because DIMA said they could not be refugees from the Gaza but of course they are stateless.

So the court said we cannot let them stay locked up until there is peace in Palestine - then Ruddock appealed to the High court and now we have a law that says stateless Palestinians can indeed be locked up for the whole of their lives just for being stateless.

Syria has taken in 1 million Iraqis who have fled from the coalition of the killing, they have 420,000 displaced Palestinians and now already 120,000 Lebanese fleeing our great allies the Israelis while we sit idly by and our leaders say "go for it".

Makes a complete nonsense of our whining about 4,000 refugees at the most in any given year don't you think? Syria has a population of only 19 million yet they managed over 1.5 million without whining and whingeing and they have not even signed the refugee convention while we have.

Now Sage, try and come up with something sensible to say hey?

Yuyutsu

Some common sense at last.

Its good to read a post where somone is able to put a few words together and tell it like it is.


Thank you

Amazing that two brothers by lineage, Joshua and Ishmail, now israelites and arabs have shed so much of each others blood in the name of the same thing, protect the holy land.

The majority of them want to live and work together, eg. On the day Yitzak Rabin was assassinated he attended a 200,000 people peace demonstration and this was after smaller but more agitated supporters for continuation of war like methods against palestinians to continue possession of occupied lands.

So obviously smaller proportion of their population want to possess or take possession of the land by war like means. which is driving the current events. Ok... my suggestion is this, isolate them and remove them from the main population that wants peace. Give these people, men and women, hand weapons so that they can see the eyes of the sisters and brothers they kill (the air force officer pushing a button to release indiscriminate killing weapon is the greatest promoter of war)... and put them together to work their issues out...War over, and the rest of the people can work together to achieve the same, look after the holy land...

Peace must return to holy land. Its the place for mankind to feel love and live with love for each other. Somewhere all of us can go when the world wears us down, so we may know the excellence to live right that men have the capacity for...

Sam

Greg begins:
"Israel is a society without a moral compass."
What really does that mean?
It can only mean that all the other countries have a moral compass.
If they had a moral compass then innocent cilvilans, men and women and children would not be killed in Iraq would they?
Just who has a moral compass, when the whole world has lost its way.