Tao “I would be quite willing go give up our calendar . . .
I would quite happily give up religious holidays. . .
I have no real problem giving up English. . . .

I have a sense of belonging.”

a sense of belonging yet belongs to nothing. Identifying with a non-identity.

When someone sees nothing worth keeping, all it means is they have no sense of values.

That is the dross of the socialist, the universal society, no differences, nothing to distinguish themselves by or with. All reduced to a world of worker drones slaving away for the sake of what?

Better we identify with our families and friends, glory in their individuality and work for their betterment than be the mindless drones whose existence cares not for calendar, values or language and yet belong to an indifferent and anonymous world state.

As dearest Margaret wrote

“There is no such thing as Society. There are individual men and women, and there are families.”

Are you pulling our legs Col, or are you just kidding yourself?

According to you (and of course Maggie) there is no society to “identify with” or “belong to”, just individuals and families.

Yet apparently, if we don’t identify with the products of “society” i.e. our common calendar, language and religious holidays, we are just drones. It has obviously never occurred to you that such things arise because humans communicate and interact with each other in a social manner i.e. in “society”.

Where did you get your education from, out of a corn flakes packet?

I’d actually be really interested to know which so-called educational institutions (ooh … another product of society) have been graced with your intellectual prowess and still managed to see fit to confer a degree upon you – just so I know which ones to avoid.

Unless of course I wanted to take “Contradictions 101 – How to increase your rate of contradictions in a 350 word argument”.

Tao “Where did you get your education from, out of a corn flakes packet”

Oh tristram / tao, no, I did not receive any credentials from where you got yours.

I would observe the profession which I am accredited in UK is not regulated by university academia (although a good degree pass will get someone partial credit) and my Australian professional accreditations accepts most post grad MBAs for partial credit too. So, no point in telling more, since like most wannabe intellectual snobs, you would doubtless fail to cut the minimum acceptance muster,

I guess your degrees in macramé and basket weaving sit you in good stead for the sheltered workshop but for real world issues, I suggest you leave them to the grown ups.

Given that my degrees in macrame and basketweaving allow me to see the glaring contradictions in your argument, while for all of your gold-plated qualifications you don’t, as I said – I know which ones to avoid.

Of course in your milieu, being able to contradict yourself at every turn is probably considered a virtue.

What you see as “contradictions” are merely the manifestation of your own corrupt and malignant reasoning and the green eyed ramblings of the socially impotent..

Thus, your view does not rank as anything approaching "qualitative" concern.

Oh Co-ol

Here http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=2848#867 you said “Personal Responsibility is the essence which makes society work.”.

So which is it? Is there “society” or is there not?

Don’t you think it is about time you took Personal Responsibility – with a capital P and R - for your own contradictions?

Or is it do as I say, not as I do?

BTW what makes you think I am concerned? Amused is more like it. LOL