Well, let me just to quote an ancient Greek philosopher's logic within Socrates principle. Who taught his students that pursuit of the truth can only begin, once they start question and analyse every belief (ever held dear). If a certain creed passes the scrutiny of evidence, deduction and logic, it should be kept.

Otherwise any such sly conviction, should not only be discarded but the thinker must also then question (since the big lie always leaves a trail of sleazy force of credibility) why he or she was led to swallow Jewanderthals fed concoctions in the first place?

Not surprisingly, this type of a commonsense teaching didn't sit well with earlier Judeo ruling elite of the ancient Greece. Equally ever since, elders-of-zion incubated world political leaders have always sought throughout the history to mislead their electoral constituents by hook or by crook. Yet Socrates himself was indicted and tried for purported youth corruption and vile regime subversion. Ultimately forced to take his own life, by drinking hemlock's poison.

So it's never easy to be an independent thinker. These days zionazi ruled global establishments (courtesy of a mass media miasma) don't kill our conscientious dissidents right away for pursuing the truth. They label blacklisted battlers as paranoid and extremist misfits. Invariably destroying thus good reputations and life's vital careers.

For some, such a fate being worse than drinking hemlock's poison. For others it's just realisation that life wasn't meant to be easy towards the adamant dissidents in breaking the tyranny of silence on globally plagued hegemony.

Lol Mr Man. Regime change in Iraq was planned by Clinton's Administration, why wait for early 2001.

Those weapons were degraded, not useless. Less effective but still capable of great damage. Of course, I doubt you will care that Saddam didn't destroy the chemical weapons that he said he had. You opposition to the war wasn't based on whether or not saddam had such weapons (ironically, neither was my support for the war), but you want to continue to your fantasy world in order to try and label those like Bush and Howard as liars.

Your problem Mr Man is that you can't see past your own huge prejudices. Every move that pushes a country away from the socialist left is somehow a move towards totalitarianism to you. What a joke.

To all those of the "9/11 was a huge CIA conspiracy" etc.. mob...

-Has anyone explained the engine part retrieved from the Pentagon, such that it shows it was a missle ?
-Have any of the 'It was a missile' crowd done anything about the passenger manifest of flight 77 and shown the people on it are still alive ?
Here it is http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
Video of the plane >http://judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml

-The Osama tape has not been shown to be a fraud, it is 'widely criticized' as such by particular political interests.

SERIOUSLY. a question to all of us.....

If 'They' are actually 'us' (i.e. as Chris says 'we are the enemy')
do any of you really.. really.. honestly.. truly expect that we would have a more transparent, honest, dinky dye, faultless, blemishless, open government such as we had under Mr Whitless ? err.. with Lionel Murphy that paragon of virtue, and the Arab loans affairs, Al Grasby white anting our cultural/ethnic cohesian for base political gain, Theofanous taking immigration related bribes from ethnic interests.. etc etc...

So, my question is... 'to whom' or 'to what' do you all look for the real answer to the problems you raise ? Chairman Mao's little red book ? :) The Ananda Marga ? Elton John ? Marx ? The hollywood celebrities who know all the answers, the Tooth Fairy ?

Lets look at the USA.. Democrats gain power... they legalize the Mexican flag waving/Retake the lost territory/Immigrant rights/Lets make Spanish the national language/Now WE are a majority mob who then join forces with the Dems until they can conveniently discard them etc.....

I mean.. to be brutally honest, the potential to make an already screwed up mess even worse is horrendously on our doorstep.

By all means point out any vested interest such as possibly Halliburton etc.. but what are u offering as an alternative?

Crucify Howard,Blair,Bush ... and your viable,squeaky clean alternative is..... ?

Does it reallllly surprise anyone that I'm constantly harping on 'New people (not a different system) make good government' ? That I Bible bash, and point to Christ ?

David you bible bash in your quaint little church because religion of all hues is the last and final refuge for scoundrels who refuse to think for themselves and comes just underneath that other refuge for scoundrels - you know the one David, the good folks of Cronulla who wrap themselves in the flag and call themselves "patriots".

1. Iraq has never done anything to Australia, has not killed any Australian's in Australia, or locked up our children in the desert or drowned hundreds of them or sent them to birdpoo islands, or stolen from them or bombed them or even shouted and screamed at them. Us that is.

2. I claim the above even though a beautiful, kind and generous young journalist I met was murdered in Kurdistan by a suicide bomber in March 2003, the first ever car bomb anywhere in Iraq it its history.

3. IF those regimes were and are so terrible why did we lock up the folks who escaped them, vilify them as baby chucking murderers not worthy of our help, call them hijackers on the TAMPA, turn them back into the sea to drown, even a new born baby girl - is this your christianity? Is it for this cruelty that you bash your bible?

4. If those regimes are still so terrible why did we drag a family of Afghans out of their beds at night and send them back to the wrong country without documents knowing they would be deported and could be killed? How about the 32 unaccompanied Afghan children we sent home not knowing if they had family left?

5. If Iraq was so terrible why did we sent refugees back into the warzone in 2003?

Come on mr christian, bible basher Boaz - what on earth did Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq ever bloody do to us?

And that is not a rhetorical question - I demand an answer.

Marilyn Shepherd,

Are you for real?? LOL

I think you are mistaking BOAZ_David Bible Bashing Department for Ruddock_Vanstone Department of Dislocation and Incarceration...

What has Christianity to do with emigration politics anyway?

Has it ever occur to you that some of the migrants could be Moslem militants sneaking through the system to enter their new Allah’ promised land?

I am not saying all were bad apples – but if one is found wanting shouldn’t we quarantine the whole boat? Surely you must put a tiny little blame on their compatriots for these confusions.

I too struggle with the inefficiencies of our incompetent government officials. But in all fairness this Islamists terrorism is something they haven’t bargained for when they enlisted on the million dollar a year political career.

If you could do a better job you better take advantage of our free democratic system before we become a theocracy of sort… otherwise use your vote wisely.

Cheers and thanks for the laugh.

coach, your simplistic view of Islamic politics is laughable.

9/11 was launched by Wahabis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahabi), a Sunni sect very powerful in Saudi Arabia.

The Wahabi loathe the Shi'ites who run Iran. Think they are scum. The Shi'ite minority in Saudi Arabia are treated like dirt.

Saying they are working together is as silly as saying the IRA and the Unionist militias in Belfast are Christian allies.

The Shi'ites in Iran weren't totally unhappy when the USA got rid of the Sunni fascist Sadaam, either.

There seem to be plenty of Iranians challenging the priest-dictators already - see http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/

And for everybody who thinks the USA can't tolerate a south-west Asian Muslim country having nuclear weapons...ever heard of Pakistan? Even before 9/11, all the USA did was slap a few minor sanctions on.

Iran will develop nuclear weapons, they will _not_ use them against Israel, and the USA will accept that because it has no choice. The USA could not successfully attack Iran, and they know it.

Especially if this guess (by someone else) is correct, and the USA really has Saudi Arabia - home of the people who inspired 9/11 - in its sights instead - see http://www.lastsuperpower.net/disc/members/355519597011