Some of the people posting on this article carry on as if the world is against them. As if what you call the ‘leb gangs’ have some deal with the police, and are out to get you. Contrary to you small minds, however, you are in the majority (much to my disgust). What, you think the police just hid that video because they want to let people of middle-eastern descent get away with crimes? Are you serious? The reasons behind the with-holding of the video were concerns about the ability of the evidence to stand up in court as identification evidence under the Evidence Act. I would have thought that would have been obvious to anyone thinking from a rational standpoint.

We live in a diverse society, like the majority of places in the world, and the sooner mainstream Australia accepts this, the better. I am not condoning the activities of middle-eastern gangs, as I never condone the activities of any criminal. What I do know is that the answer to cultural hostility surely does not rest in the minds of many of those who have posted here, unless it involves some return to the type of paternalistic policies that involved the cultural genocide of our nation’s Indigenous peoples a hundred years ago. A severely troubling thought indeed

It is almost amusing watching this forum degenerate into an outlet for anyone who has had a run in with an ethnic person or justify their own stupid supremacist views. I say it is almost amusing because the beliefs of many of the people posting actually have some resonance in the Australian community, all the way to the dog-whistling of our senior politicians (and that is anything but amusing).

There is a great irony in of all these neo-conservative rants about the failure of multiculturalism. On the one hand there is a religious observance of the concept of individual responsibility, yet on the other they are quite comfortable in holding a whole community to account for the actions of a few. Shouldn’t each individual be held to account for their own actions? Isn’t that what freedom of the individual is all about? Or are there some willing to make concessions to these hard and fast rules when it involves people of a different skin colour?

Imagine if every White Australian was required to be answerable for the violence carried out at Cronulla or the stolen generation or the Crusades or the assassination of Kennedy? As ridiculous as this sounds, we somehow expect this of Middle Eastern Australians. And when they fail to condemn in the language of Alan Jones or Piers Ackerman, they are merely sympathisers, terrorists-in-the-waiting that could be sleeping under a bed near you…

Nah tubley,

nothing confusing about Australians chanting Aussie Aussie Aussie. What is wrong with a baseball cap backwards or forwards? As for the punching, agreed it’s wrong, but luckily not a religious or big lifestyle for Aussies.

Islamists beat, rape and bomb to death, everyone whom they resent or judge to be wrong. We see it on the news daily. Ahmmmmm actually we see it daily worldwide. So who is really confused?

In the week or so of islamist ultra-violent hate crime in the eastern suburbs after Cronulla and now in Melbourne, Keysar Trad and Co whine. So we train 200 islamic lifeguards. Destroy our property and brutally beat us with our beaches as payment for your pain? Again, who is confused?

Islam is not a race it’s a religion and even as an atheist I feel deeply sorry for all other religions when this vulgar hate cult defames all religion. Cronulla was not racial, lots of races of Aussies were there to protest islamist hatred towards us.

Bowing to islamic threats and pandering to its whining. That is stupidity.

As far as this land goes, if someone pays for land they own it by law.

I’m 4th generation on my family land, my great grandfather fought in ww1, my grandfather’s shoulders were shot to smithereens in ww2. His brother died there. I’m not borrowing anything, my land is payed for and my family fought for my country. My ancestors and others of their ilk are whom we should be grateful to.

PS
The “notbacons” pretty nice. Especially with my pure organic tomatoes, grown with thanks on this land payed for in the deep tradition of cash, hard-work and bravery of my ancestors.

Have a look at what Keysar Trad thinks of Aussies as well Tubly it’s a bit of a shock but there in black and white.

http://www.islam.org.au/articles/16/RACISM.HTM

Verdent,

Yes agreed, I remember in history my Armenian friend trying to raise the 1915 massacre by the Turks to no avail. Uni arts is only good to learn how to research and find facts as opposed to Marxist propaganda

The appearance of “jkenno” and “girls” has really given this thread a nasty tone. Perhaps if you two have a chat with Rainier, then maybe you can arrange to meet at a Black Panther gathering of sorts.

Alternatively, you could meet with a group “Leb Aussies” (make sure there is one of you and thirty of them) and if you are female, allow yourself to be gang raped, if you are male allow yourself to beaten to a pulp.

When you come back crying expect no sympathy. No media coverage. No arrests. Just expect a little snickering, some excuses about the perpetrators being from oppressed minorities in the Green left weekly. I will personally visit you and tell you to leave since this is Aboriginal property. ciao

Living in Sydney and Central Coast my experience with these racism issues are an ongoing occurrence. So many close women friends have been kidnapped and raped by these lebanese gangs from sydney. Cronulla was not the first, just the most media publicized event. Are we in the wrong for sticking up for our rights to live peacefully. Every human will fight at one stage for rights and beliefs. Same with Cronulla. I agree that most of the riots were just pissed people running around the streets joining the madness. But the start was justified, But the media got it wrong on so many levels. Putting it down to religion. It was a group of people fed up with being treated like scum by people that are scum themselves. Nobody should have to put up with the things that cronulla and many other areas have to. We had to take it upon ourselves. Who else would, the police? They won’t do it as they think they will come across as racist. We have to get harder in Australia instead of pussy footing around every issue. It does not help us if the rest of the world thinks they can get away with anything in our country. I hated from the riots that white supremacist thought they would use this to their advantage. Trust me when I say that we actually hate you more. The riots had nothing to do with the muslim race. Just a revenge tactic that was prominently needed to retain order in the area. And Nothing to do with religion.

Psychologist characterize the crowd as a dangerous entity more irrational and violent then each individual.
People are submerged in the group losing their sense of self and gaining a sense of invincibility. This loss of the self leads to a lack of judgment, and the speedy and uncontrolled passing of ideas and emotions through the crowd. The Final phase is that of suggestion, where by deeply-rooted and unconscious prejudices form the basis of the contagious ideas being spread.

Kaos Out

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