Philo,

My writing is clear on what I stand for. In the last thread I was making the point that fighting terrorism have to be on all fronts because 5 years on and it is still there. Your personal attack is unprovoked and unprofessional.

Hi JustDan,

Thank you for taking us back to the origion of what we have in common: humanity and caring for each other. On the Gandhi question, I can hope that him, Mother Theresa and Jacob Saanouh (A sabean, Christian and a Jew) can benefit from the famous merciful 2:62.

We can only be good, purify our hearts and be good to each other.

BD,

I enjoyed our conversation on this thread. Hope nothing I said offended you.

AK

I put this post up for the article http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=3651 and somebody told me it would be better here. What have you to say on this matter, sir?

"May the reader consider carefully the nature of Islam. Though it speaks of peace, tolerance and equality, the Qur'an's self proclaimed right of abrogation reduces these claims to empty words. The overall picture of the Qur'an is one of violence to non-Muslims. The comments of Islamic leaders motivate followers to war against non-Muslims. Muhammad, the Apostle of Allah, was himself a violent man, killing those who opposed his religion. Though not all Muslims may conduct themselves in like manner, without doubt, Islam teaches its followers to be violent."

The issue of peace in Islam has troubled me ever since Muslim terrorists started using the Koran to justify their acts, and the ICV went to such extensive lengths to prevent Islam from being studied. I typed "violence" and "Koran" into a search engine and found this site: http://www.lookinguntojesus.net/20030126.htm The 1st paragraph of this post is a summary of the site. Irfan Yusuf, I appreciate your apologetics work for Western Muslims, but how do you explain the claims made in that website about the violent nature of the Koran?

ASH.....
me .. offended ? :) good grief, "I live for this"... I've seen and heard most of what can be said, and trust me, I'm not offended in the slightest when engaging in a spiritual debate.

If anything does offend me, its more the secular hypocricy of people who speak about 'artistic freedom' to justify increasingly sleazy so called entertainment, when the real reason is to 'make fast cash by increased ratings'.

But you, or Irfan, never worry, I take it all in my stride :)
I'm a great believer in the sovereignty of God and His work in peoples lives. I can only stumble along in my own way, but He is the one who changes hearts. God bless abundantly.

FIONA... well there you go again :) condemning religion and attacking the only thing which is holding back those who wish to turn Afghanistan into a 'massive terror training camp' and Iraq, well ok there is an 'oil' element, but not in the sense of 'taking' it, as much as ensuring continuity of supply. But the freedom from Sadaams horrific rule, I would have expected you to rejoice rather than ridicule.

I fail to see how you don't "get" the fact (not the theory) that the insurgency is from a few mindless graduates of Wahabi style Madrassa's and the 'old guard' formerly privileged oppressive minority who treated all those under their power with a level of contempt and mercilessness that stands along side the 'great evildoers' of history like Hitler and Pol Pot etc.

I am bold enough to say "how dare you " bucket Bush as a'warmonger' etc. how dare you compare the actions of those sacrificing their lives to give freedom of CHOICE to a nation, with warmongering.

And further by what measuring stick do you insult our intelligence and grasp of reality and suggest that your 'peaceful non aggressive means of solving political difference' can be applied to such situations as Iraq, my goodness, such drivel has its home in disneyland. Its not a Bex and a good lie down you need, its a few yrs lived in Iraq or some similar country.

Now, be assured, I'm not ridiculing 'you' but I AM calling your statements into serious question, I'm simply telling it like it is. drivel is drivel, Sorry.

BOAZ_David,
I have to agree with you over all the Bush-bashing done on this forum. I lived through the Second World War on the north coast of NSW and realise how close we came to being annihilated by the Japanese. So I am extremely thankful for America's assistance in driving back the Japanese. I have nothing against the people of Japan, as I have had Japanese exchange students spend 10 months in my home. Beside four years after the war my father supplied Jersey dairy cattle to the Japanese. But it was America that rebuilt Japan and established better relations with us. Thank God for America.

Much of the "Hate America Campaign" is propaganda from Saudi influences. These people have read too much propaganda. Those who treat America as the real enemy; one can only wonder if they support the agenda of terrorists in Australia?

BoazDavid. Your apology accepted. Nothing else in your post warrants reaction