People here's some news for you ...

BOTH side are wrong.

BOTH sides are terrorists

BOTH sides murder

BOTH sides have their immoral "excuses" for civilian murders

BOTH sides are horribly violent

BOTH sides want to dominate

Now do you get it? BOTH side are wrong.

Dear Jayb, you wrote on 8 August:-

"McAdam: any remorse on your false assertion that the "base matters" version was actual quotation from Quran?

That wasn't me that was LEGO."

By way of refreshing your memory, copied below is from YOUR post of 6 August:-

("McAdam: Allah refers to non Muslims in the Koran as " composed of "base matter." I am not aware of such a Quranic injunction and doubt very much if it exists at all,

A bit of Poetic Licence there, but close. I have seen similar & heard many Imams on uTube expounding that very thing.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 6 August 2014 9:25:06 AM")

Now dear Jayb, it was you who confirmed that fabrication to be authentic on the authority of some uTube clips, but if now you want to disassociate from confirming the authenticity of that fake post, it is fine with me.

Best regards

Dear Jayb, you wrote; "I've heard what Islamists do to Atheists. Not nice."

If you are serious, and only if you are serious then please consider the fact that you have not been reading what really this religion Islam is about. Primary source is always the best option. I recommend a short chapter of six lines; chapter 109 titled "The Disbelievers", in Quran and I copy its last line here:-
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion. (Pickthal)

What is it to me dear Jayb as to what is your religion? except that if I notice, I could indicate a better option to you, for your good, and that too only if you please. Other wise good luck to you with your ways.

I wonder if we have the wisdom and freedom to free ourselves from the stereotypes fed into our systems by the hate mongers that exist on all sides.

Best regard

@LEGO
Thanks for detailing your thought-process behind these pearls of wisdom. We can go on n on, enunciating and elucidating the comprehensive flaws in your logic, still, and the result would be the same. So let me just quickly re-assure you, dimwit was and is still meant for you and you only considering your repeated failure to see the difference between acknowledging propaganda, recognizing it as such AND substituting History and Facts with Propaganda in your head. So no one’s stealing your glory!
I think I now get you! You’re not pro-Zionist or Pro-Jewish you are just anti-Muslim?
I respect the honesty and I completely understand where you are coming from when you say “The funny thing is, you people display your hatred of us every day then wonder why we support your enemies.” I hear you!

The formulae for determining the party you support = The one you hate less in a particular ‘day and age’?

Let me be the first to accept, Muslims the world over have a lot a lot a lot of introspection to do – there is absolutely no denying that Fact!

But my only question to you is, in all seriousness, living in a society that places a great deal of emphasis on exploring and addressing the root-cause as opposed to mere surface treatment of the symptoms, case-in-point
1) A student pumps bullets through fellow students -> We don’t hear reasons such as “He must be the son of Satan”, More like -> “Are violent video games that glorify violence to blame?”
2) When a Veteran jumps off a bridge -> there is an effort to understand the reasons-behind, PTSD etc. rather than out rightly unequivocally dismissing him as a Sissy
3) Childhood obesity -> we don’t hear “He must be born with the stomach of an elephant”. We do see a dialogue on the merits and demerits of marketing unhealthy food products to children
4) And the list goes on and on....

CONTD

SPQR,
On your quotes so far:
• Historic events and their interpretations do have a certain level of subjectivity. But your quotes far exceed all the sensible boundaries, therefore they cannot be trusted;
• But more importantly, your quotes on Quran (30 July 9:02 AM and 31 July 7:07 AM) was wrong and you admitted that only after repeated questions left you with no other choice.
This establishes you as an extremely untrustworthy source of information.

On your why there are no “Anti-Hams authors operating in Hamas controlled area”,
Why should be there one? - Palestinians are the oppressed. What should they say to Hamas? - don’t resist the brutes?

On your it is not “your Israel”. One would understand that:
1. It is not easy today to admit that you are one of the brutes – see the WORLD PRESS; and
2. Changing identity makes you look like an impartial person – a big ask in your case.
But your 100% agreement with 100% of the official Israeli position and 100% of same tactics of spreading misinformation on the faith and culture of the brutalised (to justify the brutalities, as we have seen in history on Atlantic slave trade, Holocaust and Apartheid in our detailed exchange) have exposed you.

Even with the distraction you tried with your question, you have still not answered as to why Gideon Levy and a host of other people of conscience in Israel, US and Europe say what they are saying today about your Israel to the rest of the world.

And the WORLD PRESS! You don’t dare visit it. But you should, can help you to step out of your fantasy.

Do it or not, the Natural Justice, just as real as Physical Laws – a resounding message of human history - is CLOSING IN ON YOUR FOLKS. This is the message the world-conscience today is conveying through the WORLD PRESS to the rabid fringe of the SPQRs. And that is why you fear an impartial third-party arbitration.

I see Hamas can't even tell the time. They fired 2 Rocket 2 hours before the cease fire ended. Proving that they don't want peace.

McAdam: "out of base matters" as opposed to "what they know" I guess it a translation quandary. One could say, "out of nothing, or little" or "how intelligent they could be." Many words in English mean the same or similar. Get yourself a Thesaurus & have a look through that. I may help you to understand English much better. I can see that English is not your first language & the nuances of English do create havoc at times to new people.

Now, time to have a look at Muslims on uTube & what they have to say. & do.

Hadi & McAdam, I believe you wanted this

Quotes from the Koran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkDUlpWliQ

Muslims killing other Muslims. enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGrZ3GJkK9Q

An Islamic flag will fly over Australia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAPmJexGvIc

Islam to take over Europe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZgTk9zlSlY