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If your logic of equating groups to Ku Klux Klan and white Supremacists is based on certain differentiating ‘attributes’– I am sure Zionists would have made the list, Unless of course the process is inverted whereby attributes are assigned on demand to a pre-selected group to justify the pre-existing bias and hatred.
The statements emanating from the fine Zionist specimen on this forum are there for all to see in terms of pompously proclaiming Palestinians and Muslims overall to be sub-human.

2) Exhibit 2: LEGO says “Both ideologies advocate extreme violence towards people who are not members of their group”. You only have to open your eyes to see the extreme violence being perpetrated and by whom and for the last how many years?
Even in the present conflict, 3 Civilians on the Israeli side compared to _____ *fill in the blanks* on the Palestinian side. A bit of exercise to stimulate those neurons, do some googgling and find out yourself, some fresh perspective never hurt anybody.
You get paid to move to Israel if you are a Jew – from anywhere in the world
You get bombed to demand the right to return to your homeland if you are a Muslim

“people who are not members of their group”? HA!
How many courses of anti-conscience tablets does it take to reach your level? Conscience can be such a burden, eh?

3) Exhibit 3: LEGO says “Now, you seem to admit that it has always been the case that combatants in wartime routinely view each other as sub human. Then why are you getting worked up over the Israelis doing the same thing that everybody else does?”

Because of certain dimwits who mistake this propaganda for real history and facts and formulate their opinions and general outlook towards life based on this vile filth spoon-fed to them.
If everyone saw it for what it truly is, we wouldn’t be having this discussion Mr LEGO

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4) Exibit 4: LEGO Says “I know that the Israelis practiced terrorism to get their nation started but hardly equates to approval of terrorists of any group today doing the same thing.” And Then Goes On to Say “How you can defend Muslims when one of their victims turns the table on them is beyond me”

When it comes to Palestinians -> “hardly equates to approval of terrorists of any group today”
When it comes to the Zionists -> “How you can defend Muslims when one of their victims turns the table on them is beyond me”

Even if your – PREPOSTEROUS – contention of Muslims forcibly converting the natives and taking over the Middle East is accepted to be true – by your own logic – it “hardly equates to approval of terrorists of any group today doing the same thing?” Love the choice of words when it comes to the Zionists -> “practiced terrorism”…’Practiced’.... Simple harmless people going about their business, one son practices medicine and the other terrorism, what a sweet perfect world! *little house on the prairie* *Koochie Koochie Koo*
Aw :)

5) Exhibit 5: LEGO Says “who like the Nazis believe that where one of their soldiers stand, that is their territory forever” <- This one just takes the cake!
That is what the Zionists believe and have been believing - with ‘in your face distain’ - for the past half a century -> remember the twisted line of reasoning presented by our Zionist stalwarts on the forum, lecturing the world about the “Occupied Territory” Versus “Captured Territory”?

With this ‘might is right’ line of reasoning in control of a 4wd – I fear for all the cyclists and Nissan Micras on the road

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NC,

What any discerning reading could not fail to notice is:

1) YOU, have serious retention issues.You start out making wild claims like this :
<<The modern Europe in its childhood days was exposed to an Islam introduced by Crusaders.>>
And when someone debunks it, pointing out:
This is *really* how Islam << introduced >> itself to Europe
<<1453 Turks capture and rape Constantinople..
1456 Turks capture Athens.
1456 Turks attack Belgrade…>>

Your only response is “ you partly list some events from 1453-1565 totally ignoring the havoc the Portuguese and Spanish forces bombing the coastal cities initiated in Africa and India …

What!
What a joke!
Can you even remember the point you were trying to make ten lines ago! LOL

2) MCADAM, would make an ideal New Testament Pharisees sticking rigidly to the letter of his translation –when it suits –and only when it suits

3) Hadi, is still trying to force round pegs into square holes <<if SPQR and Jayb and Lego don’t swallow out line they must be Zoinists!>>
Actually, NC, the <<foul language, totally devoid of substance>> you keep hearing is coming from Hadi!

4) And Lexi (or Foxy as she is known by this week), just wants to be noticed.

And here’s a puzzle for you NC in response to this rant of yours << [SPQR, JAYD & Lego] would never dare to make in front of real audience who can see them>> So here’s your test. Foxy has told of the anti-Zionist authors lecturers opening pedaling their wares in Israel (as she does EVERYTIME one of these threads open) BUT, how many anti-Hamas and anti-Islamic authors /lecturers can you name in openly operating in Hamas controlled territory. I asked this of Foxy on another thread and skedaddled like a …like a…like a FOX

Dear McAdam,

On your response to yet another liar about Quran “Now a person of conscience in your place should apologize and hang his/her head in shame for a lie of this magnitude. I leave it you, what you choose.” (Your post 6 Aug 10:11 PM)

Do you seriously expect conscience in these remote-controlled robots designed exclusively to spread misinformation?

The designers are committing every crime against humanity one can think of and robots are busy trying to deflect attentions from these crimes. They don’t care how false their statements are, as long as you get distracted and start convincing them.

SPQR,
Like I said before, you don’t care how false your quotes are on history or religion, as long as I get distracted and start convincing you.

Briefly, The Crusades started in 11th century with Jews as their first target. This and the following century is when the literature under question was passed on to Europe. You quote events of about 3 centuries after that for the phenomenon. No kidding?

Turks warring in Europe was a struggle for influence that went on in nations of the day – Look at the contemporary events in Europe and also European incursion into Africa, Middle East and India, for a fuller picture – Your problem is (as discussed in detail before) that you see that behaviour in Muslims only.

On the ground realities: No response from you to Gideon Levy observations.

Perhaps you have sensed that there is a huge number of other people of conscience (from Israel, US and Europe) that I plan to quote and seek your response – leave aside the countless in the rest of the word.

Also no response “why do you fear impartial third part arbitration”, Your Israel is globally isolated – you can’t face the world either.
And yes, I mean that they “would never dare to make in front of real audience who can see them”. Doubt it? Simple test: I send you the statements the posts and you make it public with your true identity.

No, you will not.

Dear SPQR, you wrote MCADAM, ...sticking rigidly to the letter of his translation –when it suits –and only when it suits.

Are you saying that

"We have created the unbelievers out of base matters." as quoted by your friend and translation of Pickthal as I submitted are translations of the same verse, same words? Do I get you right, is this what you have said?

Now please see this exact Arabic wording of verse 70:39' in roman script:-

Kallaaa innaa khalaq nahum mimmaa ya'lamoon

It translates word by word as follows:-

Kallaaa ; Nay, verily lo

Khalaq nahum; We created them

Mimmaa; from

Ya'lamoon; What they know

Please tell me and tell the Arabic understanding world; which word in the verse translate as "unbelievers" and which word translates as " base matter"

I know you have no answer for you have repeatedly shown yourself to be a person who does not care wether he speaks the truth or not and for this reason, I had requested you to kindly spare me the honor of conversing with you. Will you please?

Best regards