NC,
<< you don’t care how false your quotes are on history or religion>>
What false quotes were those old chap?
I have a feeling with that unless everything quoted/cited says your creed is the best thing since slice bread you deem it false.
Typical fundy!

<<Briefly, The Crusades started in 11th century… and the following century is when the literature under question was passed on to Europe>>
What?
Sooooo you were talking about Islams being << introduced>> to Europe right?
Get that term << introduced>> , So what does that have to do with << when the literature under question was passed on to Europe>>
I think I know what you are alluding to, but it has bugger-all to do with Islam being <<introduced>> to Europe!

<<on the ground realities: No response from you to Gideon Levy observations>>
Yes –did you miss this:.
And here’s a puzzle for you NC in response to this rant of yours << [SPQR, JAYD & Lego] would never dare to make in front of real audience who can see them>> So here’s your test. Foxy has told of the anti-Zionist authors lecturers [like Levy] opening pedaling their wares in Israel (as she does EVERYTIME one of these threads open) BUT, how many anti-Hamas and anti-Islamic authors /lecturers can you name in openly operating in Hamas controlled territory

<<Also no response “why do you fear impartial third part arbitration”>>
LOL Anyone YOU would nominate as an << impartial third part arbitration>> Would be as warped as you or Hadi or McAdam!

<< Your Israel is globally isolated >>
There is your retention problem again , either that, or deficiencies in your programming.
It aint <<my Israel>> my only concern is the narrow one-eyed view that those in team Islam are pushing

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Hadi,

Do us a favour, stop waffling on about human rights. The truth is you couldn't give a damn about such things. You are just here to barrack for team Islam. There a hundreds of places in the world where islamic extremists are maiming and murdering and you couldn't give a stuff!

McAdam: any remorse on your false assertion that the "base matters" version was actual quotation from Quran?

That wasn't me that was LEGO.

McAdam: on the subject as "we" in such situations is used for singular in Arabic and most of other oriental languages.

Oh! the Royal "We," but even that refers to the Royal family. "We" & "Us" is, of course, used in the Jewish Torah & the Christian Bible. Long before the Koran. It stems from a time before Monotheism & the consolidation of all the Old Gods in the Levant area into one by King Ahab, if I remember right & I do.

McAdam: started attacking Quran itself and using hateful language,in so doing.

That wasn't hateful language, that was pure discussion on interpretation. Can't you tell the difference, or is that not allowed in Islam.

McAdam, with regards the people that signed the BDS Petition. I know the BDS is a Palestinian Lobby group that threatens peoples Careers if they don't agree with them. People are allowed in the West to voice their descent & they don't get their heads chopped off for it. Have you noticed that? It really means nothing. There are even more people that hold the opposite view, without being threatened.

From the BDS Website: Cynthia McKinney, and she was at the National Summit in Washington along with Phil Weiss this year, and they joined Walt in talking about the Lobby. She discussed how the Lobby was powerful enough to wreck her career and that of others.

Do you? Have you given any thought to complying with Sura (4.95) in the ME, or are you a coward?

Jayb, SPQR
The standard *divert* and run-to-the-next-BIG-LIE tactics of yours haven’t really got much traction in this discussion so your need to stoop ever lower and lower– in defense of the unspeakable and indefensible atrocities – is completely recognizable and understandable.
I have even got a bet going on bet365.com as to whom, out of you two fine Zionist specimens, will win the race to the bottom of the ‘bottomless’ pit of shamelessness… you two seem adamant to outdo each other, all the makings of an incredibly exciting and close finish! *Excellent*

Please read the below and self-diagnose, especially the last line -> it might be a bit of a *Eureka* moment for you – you can thank me later! :-)

“When our patterns of behaviour habitually cause problems and pain for others, most of us reflect upon or think about those behaviours with a sense of both shame and guilt. We feel bad for doing wrong and strive not to do similar things again. And, we feel ashamed of ourselves and vow to be better persons. Disturbed and disordered characters don’t engage in this kind of thinking.”
“Lacking an appropriate sense of guilt, and without a sufficient sense of shame, they don’t engage in the same kind of reflective thinking that enables most of us to grow, change, and improve ourselves”

Your strategy - to ensure the world’s attention remains fixated on the “crazed Mozlem fanatic” while the rabid Zionist regime’s most heinous of crimes go largely unpunished - is way past its 'best before date'. You may insist on lingering on with it for a while but honestly, the world has had enough of your debased drivel.
Those “fanatical ‘Mozlem’ kingdoms of South America” are leading the charge with his highness Sheikh Evo Morales declaring Israel to be a __ state? *fill in the blanks*
Yes – that’s right ‘Terrorist', classic case of spitting towards the sky and having it land back on your own Zionist face *ouch*, what was intended to stick to the other side is inevitably beginning to stick onto the original inventors of terrorism

Quick Status Update of where we stand after a bit of talking to each other and a lot of talking at each other

Our Zionist friends here consider
1) Palestinians to be sub-human (and Muslims overall)
2) Palestinians to not be deserving of a free State of their own
3) Jews to be the ‘sole proprietor’ of the ‘holy land’
4) And by implication -> Jews to be the superior forms of creation – with rest of the humanity put here just to serve them (*Rabbi Ovadia Yosef * "The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews". He said that Gentiles served a divine purpose: "Why are Gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat. That is why Gentiles were created”)

Yes, clearly, the Palestinians are to blame for the bloodshed in the middle-east, bloody obvious it is! The other side is composed of a perfectly reasonable set of individuals who only ‘practiced’ terrorism to get their nation started and continue ‘practicing’ ethnic cleansing since to continue the 'nation building'…. Hey! Its only fair! C’mon you gotta vacate the land you occupied and then build on the land you vacated, eh? Otherwise what’s the point? And the *cycle* continues under one wacko pretext or another!

All of the above is fully traceable in the comments posted on this site. This is the mentality we are dealing with!
*Hysterical laughter* or *Mournful sobbing*, take your pick, there isn't much else in-between for a human with even an iota of conscience intact!

Hadi, Hadi, Hadi ...a great reading of the script ...BUT IT'S THE WRONG SCRIPT!

Neither Jayb , Lego or me are Zionist! -- just as neither you, nor NC, or McAdams are human rights aficionados.

Tell you what, run off back to your master and get him to re-install your software. You want the script that you'd use when you're ranting to non-believers(not Zionists), Ok?

I don't actually think that there are any Jews or Zionists (difference? Is that like Southern Baptists & Jehovah Witnesses) involved in this discussion. I have stated before I'm Muslims worst nightmare.... an Atheist. I've heard what Islamists do to Atheists. Not nice.

As regards the list. If that's what you think, fine, I don't care. I don't have to be ashamed of my beliefs just because they are not the same as yours. I have done the research & come to the conclusion that Islamists are all idiots. See the entire list of Nobel Prize winners.
Aren't you ashamed to be a Muslim? I would be.

Where about on the scale do you put yourself, liberal, moderate or fanatic Muslim?