PALE:"Even you should know we have thousands in all sorts of industries being brought to Australia.
If you look at our Web page you will see not one but two top AMIEU X Federal leaders.

One who was the Federal Leader of the AMIEU and involved for thirty five years and hes an advisor to us!.

Scroll down and you will see Ross Richerson sitting with myself and others. Hes the big tall bloke on the left."

And do you think that your efforts here on OLO are making them proud of their association with your group? As I've said elsewhere, the carry-on you seem determined to perpetuate here does nothing except expose your group to ridicule as a bunch of ineffectual socialising amateurs. Is that the view of your group you are trying to foster?

Note, there are 2 questions in that post, I doubt I'll get a response, but one lives in hope.

Anteseptic regards, your posts seek answers you will not get balance and truth in a place it does not exist.
Kath Evans, a warrior and a legend in NSW and that union ,for more years than some would like to know decades.
She [see the reference above in the last post from fantasy land], far from miss informed us.
I am no longer in debate or talking in any way with the group posting as pale or as its friends.
It has past the point of no return, it is paddling in the mud to do so.
I imagine nothing, the barbs and taunts are real and in nearly every post humor? only by mistake but funny.
ALP? can it be some one thinks robust debate leaves scars? who truly cares about other views on politics? not me my sparring partner Tapp, thanks for that little deed mate, are the worst two offenders here yet I feel nothing more than sorrow for him no anger.
The poorly constructed view that only other are wrong, the insulting turn around in views about RObert in the tip shop thread?
A symptom of something else
I will continue to visit the thread to keep pace with the one sided rants, will talk to some in that union about the rants maybe give them an up to date copy, but it should not be needed.
If pale would only review its own actions here as hard as it looks at others.

Robert
However well intended - your idea of car park taking it outside or which ever you want to term it. I think you should re think it.
You can surley see now this threads are used as a hate place for people to attack one organisation or one person which ever the case may be.
While we understand that probably was not `your` intent I suggest you realise that is what its turned into.
This little man that has a huge problem with woman by reading a quick couple of posts is flaming.
Fair enough if belly wishes to continue because belly was involved from the start.

I hope you will consider this yourself and speak with OLO.
We dont worry about too much Robert but outsiders coming in flaming that have no history in the matter have to be stopped.

Possibly he thinks its some sort of mis guided loyalty because I see he is an old poster friend of yours.
By the way- may I enquire what was on that add that you were complaing about?
The one where you said the bank was promoting violence to men from women.
I know its off post to this topic but you said you started car parks to discuss things outside.

What actually was shown on that add? Which bank?

So Robert that aside either you as the public keeper contact OLO about this guy "flaming" or we shall.

I take it that was aimed at me? If you have a problem with my questions, may I suggest you address some them? As a concerned taxpayer and an individual opposed to the live animal export trade, I'm frankly appalled at the poor judgement your organisation is showing on this forum, not to mention your attempted "controlling" behaviour and snide remarks, aimed at somehow discrediting me because I asked for a genuine opinion on an opinion forum. Your behaviour is so sub-standard, I am very tempted to ask for a review of your tax-exempt status, as I believe you, as an organisation, are abusing that privilege here on this forum by allowing use of a resource (your computers and internet connection) for a purpose unrelated to your organisation's purpose.

Now, about those questions...

Antiseptic do not concern your self truly you have done nothing wrong, or has RObert.
Let us remember those questions you ask are the back bone of this thread and that questions about behavior still unanswered but clearly still a concern.
I with every instinct think many more than one have posted as pale just in this thread, and others.
And believe most who are in fact pale supporters would be appalled if they read this thread, not by your behavior or mine but by those posing as people who care about animal welfare.
It concerns me ,the constant refocusing of the attack zone, the very real concerns given here .
Pale now having unleashed dreadful insulting diatribes against RObert now call on him to lead the forum to dry ground.
In the defensive thread stated by pale tip shop? the say they will no longer talk to him then ,well read it your self.
We must confront some seeming facts, those posting as pale post miss truths , bizarre political views, claim closer relationships with some than they have.
But seem not in control of themselves.
The childish theme that I have found God after starting a thread is there a God is nearly insane, yet it is called funny?
In time ,one day here in these threads, some one from pale other than this group we see will come hat in hand to say sorry.
It will take place it must take place, in my home I never let visitors touch my PC after all it remains my duty to not let the kids play in such forums.
I again invite readers to get a cool drink sit down and read as many of pales posts as you can, a rewarding afternoon if you like a laugh but just a bit concerning too.
We at least should never forget cruelty to animals is never acceptable I forever and ever will remember the fear in the eyes of animals waiting in line to die for processing, I however do eat meat without doubt.

Belly
Poor -Kath Evans. Do you have to throw peoples names around?

Can’t you post your opinions without saying names eg. –
“I am a paid union official”?
Belly said-
Your age and lack of education, or just the view of a very bitter old lady? Miss spell posts are always worth a read.
Is it pale the group [all 3 of you] or this poster who is so out of touch with Australia?

I AM A PAID TRADE UNION OFFICIAL.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 September 2007 6:15:59 PM

How dare you condemn the Independent Tapp when he isn’t here to defend himself?

That’s the act of a coward and a bully yet again. Unions have a bad name for just that.

I mean sure if you want to go ahead. It works works for us!

Kevin Rudd’s in QLD like PALE- “Desperate’ to make the public ‘think” ALP have changed .
No more loud mouths or rudeness. Then comes you belly
I put it to you belly that PALE are not going to be told or bullied into changing our posts on OLO by a paid ALP union official “or anybody else.”

Go off and start your own little group to help the animals.

Graham Young addressed Roberts’s concerns. I said if it continues I will complain to him.
So Robert how about now taking some responsibility for your ideas - Or do you opposes Graham young too?

If Kath Young and yourself advertise intra fighting in ALP and oppose what’s on the AMIEU web page against Federal Leaders that’s your choices..

Kevin Rudd may even order the PALE petition off the web site that`s been there for years.
`“Now that would be interesting”`- and beyond the PALE-

Which is a favourite saying of Kevin Rudd’s- Mind you I haven’t heard him say it for a while.

Be our guest because Cruelty of Live Animal Exports and sending Australia’s raw materials to China and elsewhere with those jobs in their most valuable form ‘should be in the stop light” and you can bet PALE "will keep it there"!