David- Well here is somebody else thats REALLY UPSET!
Robert YOU started a thread about our posting when we first joined. It had NEVER been done before on OLO
Thats WAS to target our use of pale and IDs etc

below is just one comment that poor old Graham made after you caused everyone that upset

Now you have dragged poor old belly into it.
You know he`s a union blke and they work with their buddy codes of practise.

Antje, no-one pays to use the forum. The only people who pay to use this site are our partners like Melbourne Uni, LGAQ, Oxfam etc. and they get ownership rights as members. You can see them on the drop-down list on the home page of OLO.

No-one is stopping you posting under your own name. Just register under a new email address as Antje Struthmann, or whatever you choose, and I'll suspend the PALE one.
Posted by GrahamY, Sunday, 12 November 2006 8:12:59 PM

Anyway Robert you and a few other trouble makers look like getting your way- because I am ill through the trouble you and morgan have caused
Why dont you STOP telling everybody else what to do and leave rules to Graham.
Get a life and leave people working for animals alone.
You should be DELIGHTED I am being driven out of posting and possibly Animal Welfare!
I have never met such a bunch of nasty nit picking trouble makers !
Antje. PS nobody else HAS to use their own name so WHY should PALE
When everybody voted on how to post the last time you put up a thread about it- I WAS the ONLY one who said
We should all use our OWN names
You Robert threatend to LEAVE OLO If that happend
So who is the honest one!
Do you remember that David?
I do!

The person posting tonight as pale please take a deep breath, think the issue out.
It is clear you are rushing toward a day that sees you leave the site, no one wants that, not even you.
I can imagine your last post now, full of charges that will be untrue as they are now.
Almost as if you revel in verbal warfare you level new crimes every post so Moran is the problem now.
I am a social activist, that is what you are too, or part of what your are, why is it only part?
Australia needs to hear your views about animal welfare, we do not need the spite.
Can you not see others opinions have as much weight as yours?
That our ideas may not always be true?
Pale I am the product of my lifetime experiences we all are your posts have forever changed my view of pale.
I return to this thread time and again hoping someone at pale, maybe the other room has taken control and got back on track.
This girls night out like a few I have observed has left a by product on the footpath outside the pub.
No other description serves my view better.
Settle think breath deeply and talk in your group about outcomes it is time to settle.

I don't know why you don't all just go out and stroke a dog or something....

No real understanding of the thread in that post SPANKY go to the start read the thread.
Then come back and inform us why we should stroke that dog,
I do often skeeta my little bossy miniature foxy is still sulking in my bed, she knows I am about to go to work.
Have read the thread answer this for me, is it wrong to ask for better behavior in posts? respect? honesty?
Is it ok to defame? have you seen the reapplication of pales insult to me ten times as in caps they highlight again and again that they once claimed I was not a paid union official? seen the sarcastic sling in caps paid union official?
Out of control out of touch and nearly out of friends my view of pale.

Belly
I stayed out of ths until now. You are the one who started making the most highly personal insults. I notice if pale opens a thread about labour you have been nasty beyond any forum rules should allow.
Pale coped it and ignored you.
Now you dare the play the victim.
Thats typical a bully mentality displayed by anybody involved in any union in my opinion.
I will tell you something else too. I was around when they stopped pale members posting on this forum under pale.
I used to work in the pale office as often as I could but I had to move.
I am not posting as pale so dont bother trying to cause yet more trouble.
I will tell you something else too belly.
Nasty posts can go beyond this thread.
I was assualted days before I had my baby because of some thilthy comment put up on this thread by by somene who I see back again
The Forum SHOULD have taken it off but left it there.
I was kicked with steel cap boots and we are both lucky to be alive.
Sure I dont blame the poster for his actions but he had never done anything like that before.
Why dont you just leave these good people along. If you stop your personal insults they I am sure wont be responding with humuor.

Antje (assuming that is who is posting). I think that you have misunderstood my intentions right from the start, I'm having another go and hoping that you read this post and try and understand what I'm saying.

My principle concern with people posting under the PALE name with no other identification in the post does not leave others (including myself) with a viable means of responding to those posts without then being accused of attacking a NFP working to help animals. A charge that has been levelled at myself and others in response to posts that were clearly about your online behaviour or views on topics which have nothing to do with animal welfare. Likewise there have been veiled threats of legal action for supposedly defaming the organisation (a grossly offensive bully tactic that has no place on this forum in my view).

Pick an alias and add it to any post put up on the PALE account so that it is clear both to the person responding to your comments and other readers who's comments are being addressed.

No need for a real name or a full name if personal privacy is an issue just something that identified the posts as yours rather than the official word of the organisation PALE. As you have said elsewhere PALE has no political agenda and I assume that it has no official agenda in regard to many of the issues you post on yet disagreement with posts on those topics has led to accusations of people attacking your organisation.

I personally think the organisation would be much better served if you posted under another name so that your personal views did not appear to be those of the organisation but that really is an issue for the management of PALE, the risks associated with that particular choice are theirs. It's something that the rest of us can have opinions about but it's clearly not something I need to put much effort into.

R0bert