Boazy, I've never struck one quite that bad.

Some women get that way because they are spoiled brats who don't deal with lifes realities well, others in part because some men treat them with a level of predatory contempt that I still find hard to believe. We each choose what we do with lifes experience. Some rise above it, others turn it into hate.

It becomes a bit of an eye opened when you speak to women dating in their 40's. There are men out there with just as much hatred of women, it's expressed differently with women being treated as though they were of no value except for one need.

R0bert

Robert
I see your at it again. I stoped posting on that particular thread when you basically told me I should give up my four children because I was re marrying and intended to move.
I recall you from a year or so ago when you opended a similar thread for the same purpose to cause trouble for PALE.
Unlike yourself PALE are paid members.
This must come as a huge shock to you but PALE are also people.
People have different opinions on all sorts of things and Antje is as entiled to post on any threads she wishes without asking your approval.
When PALE joined OLO there was nothing said that PALE could [only post on Animal Welfare issues] and they dont get any extra posts more than you. There is nothing in the rules to indicate that so what are you going on about? I for one left that particular thread because I thought you unreal and controlling. I was insulted by your remark about what I should do with my children and my faimily.
I have seen you make some very direct very rude comments to others but you get your undies in a knot because poor Antje said - Robert you can not control others for the rest of their lives.
Thats it. Thats all she said as part of her comment in response.
Your have a serious control problem which you have demostrated yet again.
Oh and I am a person who happens to be also a member of PALE.
Why dont you write and ask OLO to ban me to along with a few other hundred members?
I can still be a person Robert just like Antje.
Antje was right.
You have NO right to go around controlling where others live or what they do on OLO.
Who do you think you are.
Another thing how dare YOU tell me to give up MY kids if I want to Remarry and relocate and live elsewhere!
Mind your own business trouble maker.

Cripes. Like I said...

TarynW, the custody issue is a different thread but it seems that you are OK with the idea of the childrens father having to give up real involvement in their lives. What's the difference except that you are the one moving, you are the one with a choice in the matter. Hard to see much apart from sexism in that.

Antje is quite welcome to post, I'm also allowed to post. Antje took it upon herself to reprimand another poster for personal comment in a post. I took it upon my self to have some fun with the irony in that. Given Antje's long history of personal abuse and insult in posts that particular piece of hypocracy was just to good to pass up. I listed links to some of Antje's abusive and insulting posts on the thread where she flaunted that particlar piece of hypocracy.

Antje and apparently David (your CEO) are bothered that the organisation may be harmed by comments about Antje's posts. When Antje views or behaviour are commented on unfavourably then Antje hides behind the pretense that people are attacking the organisation rather than her own behaviour.

She is free to keep up that game as long as your organisation is willing to bear the bad image it gives you. The rest of us are free to disagree and to make comment as we see fit within the rules of the site.

Quite simple really. You guys choose if you want your orgainsations reputation to continue to suffer because of Antje's behaviour.

R0bert

PALE and related posters. R0bert is being quite reasonable with his remarks, as he usually appears to be. Letting an organisations name be used to put forward personal viewpoints on anything other than the organisations main objectives is plain silly, and risks your reputation when people take offence. PALE as an organisation should not be posting personal viewpoints on topics such as divorce and chlid custody. By all means let your members join OLO in their own right and post their personal viewpoints - no problems at all with that, even if they link themselves to PALE publicly. But that means that anything they say will be taken as a personal belief rather than the opinion of the organisation. I've had many discussions on OLO with R0bert and not always agreed, but both of us have managed to conduct a civil disagreement without personal insults or name-calling. I might add that he is one of a handful of posters that IS able to conduct himself civilly pretty much all the time (because I'VE certainly let go at a few people!).

Country girl said
PALE as an organisation should not be posting personal view points on topics such as divorce and chlid custody.
PALE REPLIES
At the risk of repeating myself pale does not get anymore posts than you or Robert do.
I never complained about Robert being rude. I complained about his continual interfearing of what pale does or doesnt do.
This is not the first time.
The last time it was complaing about multiple iDs because we had several members of pale posting here.[ just like you have suggested we do all over again.]
So Graham Young arranged for just myself to post under the name of pale.

If you have a complaint about my posting on all the posts take it up with OLO.
There is nowhere that it says I have to ONLY post on Animal Welfare.
Also the others refuse to post on OLO if you really want to know because of Robert bitching.
Now you want people to acknowledge they are pale members so he can complain all over again to OLO
PALE cant win can it?
If the members post under their names he complains about multiple Ids.
If pale posts on other topics the are told they are not entiled to do that either.
Robert has a desire to have pale banned simply because we wouldnt allow him to tell us what to do or not do a long time ago.
Graham young runs OLO not you and not Robert.
If you want to complain about me posting on a divorce thread I suggest you take it up with him.
I have NOT broken my directions from Graham Ever! You can not tell me I cant use the whole of the threads just like you do.