IS MISE...

I'll respond to your questions purely because of the respect I once held you in.

(a) Shots I've fired in a year? Wouldn't know - probably the minimum required.

However, on the FBI F/A's Instructor School, 1986; Shotgun 'The Advance' (qualifying) Serial: Move, fire & reload: *High Light; *Low Light; and *No Light conditions. Using 'Federal Tactical', no. OO Buckshot and Brenneke Solids, in one 9 hour day, commencing at 1600hrs to 0200hrs, with 45 mins off for our meal break: - firing in excess of 450rds of the above. Not very many I hear you say? Try it with a 18inch Barrel, modified Remington 870, mostly unsupported, and occasionally, with an unorthodox support.

The other 'shorts' on which we were required to qualify; Revolver; 38/357, Pistol; 9mm 10mm .45ACP Walther TPH. Non Qualification; but required to familiarize with 'shorts'; Revolver; .44mag .454Casul, .357 Desert Eagle Pistol, together with a couple other revolvers and pistols I've since forgotten.

The FBI Snipers School was held about 16 months after the F/A Inst. School. All naturally using 'longs'. The toughest part being, The Night Stalking exercise while being fully equipped and wearing your ridiculous Ghillie Suit (no requirement for police!)during this stalking exercise. In the Mojave Desert, in pitch black conditions, while constantly tripping over these bloody 'Gopher' Holes! And I never saw a Gopher?

The 'college cops' (FBI) cop abuse from the media and other police forces in the US ad nauseam.

There are always assertions made about coppers. Some are true, most are simply 'bullock excreta'. You would surely know that IS MISE? Who made these assertions? Anything to do with the media, I'd take with a grain of salt. Anything that'll conjure up a good yarn.

Finally, police must qualify with their issue F/A's, otherwise they're not permitted to carry it, thus they become office bound. Some are excellent shots, some good shots, others are OK shots, while a few struggle though their qualifying shoots.

o sung wu,

With all that experience, why did you doubt my modest claim of hitting a figure target at 100 yards with the Navy Colt?

Seem to me, that with all that training you could do even better.

I'll stick by what I said, though, most police are lousy shots, furthermore, they are generally ill-trained with, and have a poor knowledge of firearms.

Unlike you IS MISE, I have many more recreational pursuits in my life than this unhealthy and strangely intense worshiping of Firearms, that you seem to have? Firearms to me are nothing more than a tool. A tool that hitherto, I'll never have a need to make use of.

As to whether or not your a better shot than I, has no interest for me whatsoever. Therefore I'll happily defer to your superior knowledge and shooting expertise than mine. And at your age IS MISE, with respect, surely there are other less lethal hobbies for which to engage your interests. Other than this very deleterious and intense dalliance you seem to have, for all things concerning blood-lust, guns and killing. An almost pathological curiosity you seem to have IS MISE?

And this astonishing and completely unprovable averment, you've continued to make, is utterly ludicrous.

'Most police are lousy shots'; by who's standards; and how would you know?

'They are generally ill-trained'; again by who's standard, and you of course IS MISE, would know this how?

'And have a poor knowledge of F/A's'. What, have you tested and interviewed all 15,000 plus, sworn members in NSW, IS MISE?

Sir, you are speaking arrant rubbish! What you've said borders on both ludicrousness and stupidity! If for a moment, all of what you've said is true - how would you know? An elderly gentleman (like myself) who wouldn't have a skerrick of notice taken of him, with any of these dubious and totally implausible contentions.

You know we've spoken about credibility, well it's descending further and further south I'm afraid.

" And at your age IS MISE, with respect, surely there are other less lethal hobbies for which to engage your interests. Other than this very deleterious and intense dalliance you seem to have, for all things concerning blood-lust, guns and killing. An almost pathological curiosity you seem to have IS MISE?"

Turned 83 just two days ago, o sung wu.
Still hunting foxes (of which you approved) and still shooting them with the Ruger No1 in .220Swift (of which you also approved); why the sudden disapproval? Old age?

On the subject of shooting prowess, three weeks ago I gave a demo to some of the young blokes and fired 15 aimed shots at 50 yards from a .22 single shot rifle in 60 seconds.
I'm also regularly (once a month) shooting pistol. In the rapid fire event's 5 second stage (6 aimed shots in 5 seconds) I get all six on target using a reproduction of a Colt 1873 model, single action, revolver (Uberti 'Cattleman' https://www.uberti-usa.com/1873-single-action-cattleman-revolvers ).
For those who don't know, the single action has to be manually cocked for each shot; they are considered to be slow.
In fact, the first two shots can be fired much faster than the first two from a semi-automatic pistol, such as the Glock.

Police competence and training?

Read the newspaper reports that I gave reference to and the Coroner's report on the Lindt Cafe siege.

And don't forget my daughter's experience as a Police Firearm Training officer (I gave her her initial training!!). She is currently in Europe where she holds a very responsible firearm training position in one of the EEC countries.

What all this nonsense about skills at shooting has to do with preventing radicalisation of persons to Islam is off subject and will not prevent one person from taking a car and mowing down innocent persons in the street. We must stop the killing of innocents before it happens not merely shoot the murderer behind the wheel. You guys are obsessed with killing yourselves.

We must do as some countries have done and that is ban the Koran, and those that teach its murderous message.

Josephus,

"We must do as some countries have done and that is ban the Koran, and those that teach its murderous message."

I don't agree, banning the Koran would stop people from understanding why it is such a menace to Western Democracy, but I'll go along with banning its messengers.

"You guys are obsessed with killing yourselves."

Hardly!!