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What is an 'appropriate response' PM?
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IS MISE alleges '...unfortunately most of our police are rotten shots and don't get much in the way of training...'? Is that right, IS MISE, and you would know this how? When it comes to F/A's as I said some time ago, your credibility became suspect, and you're increasing that level of suspicion exponentially , with some of these unfounded theories of yours. I know, you know a bloke who knows another bloke, who used to be a copper?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 24 March 2017 7:49:00 PM
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Foxy: There's a total breakdown in communication and often people are pushed towards extremism. Consistently looking at people in a
negative light leads to disconnection and that's when you've got problems. That's exactly right Foxy. Australians are refusing to get the Message. Australians are not taking up Islam. They have communicated with us, pleaded with us, knifed people, shot people, even threatened us with Beheadings, Bombings & still we are not getting their message that we have to convert to Islam, now. We keep telling them, No. It's no wonder they are getting angry. We are just not listening to them. Posted by Jayb, Friday, 24 March 2017 8:55:10 PM
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O sung wu,
How many shots does a policeman fire in practice in the course of a year? My experience with police on the range has been very negative the main complaint being safety procedures; a minor complaint, more to do with good manners than anything else, has been rubbish left on the range. My youngest daughter was a Police Firearms Instructor and her experiences was that most of them were poor shots and some of them woeful. However, if I'm wrong just list the police that have won a shooting competition against civilian marksmen. This is about Queensland but there is no reason to believe that other States are different. "QUEENSLAND police receive less training to use a gun than security guards and social shooters. Officers are required to shoot just 60 bullets at the range once a year despite private gun licence holders being forced to practise six times annually to keep a licence. Gun trainers have told The Sunday Mail some officers are scared to fire their police-issued Glock while others struggle to strip their weapons and name parts. Officers shoot for about an hour a year and to re-qualify.... must hit 12 of 15 rounds in a shaded area of a target, or 80 per cent of the time, with the remaining 20 per cent hitting the target body profile. Civilians must fire 200-300 rounds a year at a minimum over six competition shoots to maintain a gun licence." This was in the Sunday Mail late last year (cannot reference as the Subscribe device cut in). However, "Queensland Police Service commissioner Ian Stewart today launched an immediate review of policy, procedures and training for violent confrontations. Bond University criminologist and former detective inspector Terry Goldsworthy said....general duty police officers only attended one firearms training session a year. "I think there's probably going to have to be a review of police training in regards to use of force options," he said." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-25/police-firearms-training-does-not-develop-instincts-officer/5917082 Recently there was talk of NSW Police being issued with rifles as their pistol skills left a lot to be desired. Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 24 March 2017 9:17:04 PM
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Further to the above:
“The tests carried out showing the comparison between an ordinary trained cop using a standard glock compared to the long-arm were staggering,” a NSW officer told The Saturday Telegraph." “Using a Glock at 25m, 50m and above the officer shooting at an active shooter would also hit three other people, whereas with the rifle the shooter was taken out without any innocent bystanders injured at all.” http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/nsw-police-can-soon-use-longarm-semiautomatic-guns/news-story/016f7325cf77df8cd7e857123955b598 Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 25 March 2017 8:04:24 AM
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The PM should explain his claim that for us to stop muslim immigration 'is what ISIS wants'. How come PM?
The truth is more likely to be that he has no idea of how to make Australians less vulnerable to terrorist attack and muslims are his friends anyway so he will put their interests ahead of Australians. He wants more to come here. As for LNP Pyne saying ON nation wants to deport Australians. That is an utter lie and he should retract it. Labor and Shorten are also lacking any useful ideas and support more imported muslims to make the place less safe. We really need new leadership of the major parties. Someone that cares for the well being of Australians. Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 25 March 2017 8:31:00 AM
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Attorney General Brandis is in the Herald this morn warning that IS is forming/will form an International Caliphate as they lose ground in the ME and that the threat to Australia will not diminish.
Perhaps he should tell the PM. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 25 March 2017 9:03:20 AM
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