Foxy, Where in the teachings of Christ does he encourage violence to unbelievers? Where does he teach murder to apostates. The History recorded against Christians is not supported by the teachings of Christ or the text of the New Testament. They were a barbaric people following their passions. The History of Islam is supported by the teachings of Mohamed. Get the facts correct.

You are loosing your argument and have no idea how to stop radicalization of those coming from middle class Islamic societies. Read the background of those involved in 9/11.

Dear Josephus,

We often hear conflicting moral teachings from
our religious leaders. Many claim to have the
true message of God or the true message of Christianity.
We hear about "Christian values" or "God's will" or
"The Bible says" or "Jesus says" How can we tell who
is interpreting the Bible with true understanding and
who is consciously or unconsciously merely using it to
serve their own ends?

As I stated earlier Islam is just a religion and like
every religion in the world it depends on what you bring
to it. If you are a violent or hateful person your religion
is going to be violent. People are violent or peaceful and
that depends on their politics, their social world, the
ways that they see their communities. Religions are big and
diverse and people get out of them what they bring into
them. The problems in Islam are relatively recent - and
Christianity also has a lot to answer. I am a Christian
and I try to practice respect for all persons everywhere.

You of course are free to practice your religion in whatever
way you see fit. I prefer a doctrine of love and forgiveness.
Some people prefer one filled with prejudice and hate.

Note: Here is a current ruling on apostasy in Islam.

https://islamqa.info/en/20327

This is a current ruling on apostasy with it's palaver. You could never criticize or leave the religion without being murdered. For those serious about understanding Islam read the whole article.

Foxy, what a head in the sand world view! Because I expose not what people bring to the religion; but what people are taught by the religion I practise prejudice and hate, according to you. To quote the current teachings and practises of Islam I am peddling prejudice and hate. You have no answer to those indoctrinated in Islam to murder kafir. You make no contribution to the problems faced by innocent citizens attacked in the name of Allah. You fail to make persons accept responsibility for their behaviour. If we are to defend the right of people to accept ideas, we must also have the right to challenge those ideas.

https://islamqa.info/en/20327

Foxy,

Read the Koran and then comment on it.

Dear Josephus and Is Mise,

I have made my views quite clear on this discussion.
If you were to read my posts again perhaps it may dawn
on you the points being made - try my post at the
beginning of page 7 for a start.
I've given links
as to why Islam cannot be blamed for violence (on
page 9).

Anyway, one final comment - we need to judge people
by their deeds not their claims. The people who
commit violence are a small minority on the fringes of
society. They do not represent the vast majority of
people. They came into the world as "blank sheets"
as every child does. But then their minds from an
early age were fashioned by frightening nonsense
preached by fanatical ideologues. The only way we
can attempt to solve this problem is to get the
Muslim Communities on side. To get their help in
attempting to solve this problem. We need to work
together - not exclude them out of the equation.

Anyway, as I've stated previously - go back and
read my posts. I see no point in repeating them
It would be counter-productive.