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USA: Cops killing Blacks - Raciest Homicide or Justified ?

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Hi there STEELEREDUX...

I really don't know, in answer to your question. I 'think' (I can't say for certain), most uniform cops working in the more black enclaves, in the poorer parts of most US cities, are probably very nervous, even scared at the moment ? Whenever one is dealing with belligerent or aggressive blacks, most especially those congregating in gangs, it's a most comforting feeling to 'clear leather' and have that .40cal. or 9mm handgun locked and loaded in your hand. To quote a veteran Patrolman in a NJ Department.

I just can't imagine two armed individuals, one a black cop, the other a white man both proffering weapons, would necessarily peacefully yield to each other, even if the roles were reversed. Unfortunately racial hatred runs deep, so who knows if some common ground could be met, in order to preserve the 'mutually assured destruction' paradigm ?
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 9:33:55 PM
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I think the African Americans, often overreact to what they
perceive as racism.

Probably understandable given the slave history in America.
But never the less they do overreact.

OJ Simpson was one case of over-reaction by the black community in
America.
They reacted as though it was a white plot when OJ was arrested.
And a black Jury found him innocent, because they based their verdict on
perceived racial persecution and not calm thinking.

I think the fact that if you asked most blacks in America today,if he was
guilty, they would probably say yes.
More testimony to the fact that they overreacted to perceived racism
And a guilty man walked free.

It is not always a white plot. Reason needs to prevail.
The Americans have themselves to blame for this loss of control in their
country. They were all too willing to have cheap black labour to make money
and pay mexicans a pittance to work as maids and servants and shop staff.

It is happening in Australia too, where they are bringing people in
on visas to get cheap labour. People benefit by making profits by all the new
customers comin in also. But those same people making big profits then
dont want to fund more hospitals and childcare, pensions etc. They want the profit side
of more people but not the providing for the social cost like more hospitals,roads etc.

Eventually we will lose control of this country also, like the Americans will from
bringing in too many migrants to exploit.
Strange that the left wing side of politics supports this capitalist agenda,at the risk
of lsing control of their own country.
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 10:13:09 PM
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Hi there CHERFUL...

Your comments apropos O.J.SIMPSON are pretty spot on in my opinion. The reasons you suggest; the Defence has ensured the jurors have been thoroughly persuaded, this whole People vs. SIMPSON prosecution was simply a white plot, and a clever conspiracy, in order to defame this much acclaimed and respected African American sportsman and actor ? Gives further rise to the reason(s) you suggest, for his subsequent acquittal too.

Unfortunately with instances of racism, comes instances of 'reverse racism', and many State governments are too intimidated to make tough decisions in case they appear to be raciest. Unfortunately there's evidence some of this reverse racism, is occurring here in Oz, which can't be a good thing ? Thanks for your thoughts CHERFUL.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:02:40 AM
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o sung wu,

Just stepping to one side of the discussion taking place and not intending to divert the thread, Google 'confirmation bias'.

Now, what I would like to confirm with you is that of all people and that includes those 'experts' like Poirot who are responding to this thread, police are some of the very LEAST likely to be influenced by stereotyping (see confirmation bias) that could result in injury to another.

The training of police and VERY DEFINITELY where use of the side arm is concerned, is strongly pitched towards ensuring that INFORMED judgement is exercised before drawing their service pistol, let alone aiming and discharging it.

I refer to my earlier posts too, but there is none better than the very sage observations by Hasbeen [page 1, the first post in reply to the original post].

I haven't had experience of the seamy side of life thank God. However through my regular exposure to police and the good citizens other community service oriented occupations from my earlier business interests and volunteering, I can affirm that it is extremely unlikely that those who undertake and stick with the community-oriented vocations and especially the police forces in democracies, would be prejudiced against any sector of the population, EXCEPT criminals.

It is a very great pity that those who are now laying into police don't demonstrate any support for them in the ordinary course of life either.

tbc..
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 14 July 2016 1:39:27 PM
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I am heartily sick of the leftists - types like the Trotskyist NSW Greens - who are forever trying to bring police and other supports and GLUE of society into disrepute.

It is NOT possible in a population as large as the police forces in the US (or here for that question), that a mistake in not made some day. Mistakes are instantly regretted and reviewed by all of the force and the society that supports the good work done by police.

The fundamental protection we enjoy is democracy. Second and damned crucial too, freedom of speech. If police or any public servant has done wrong then it WILL be corrected.

I wish that those who are carping critics had similar tests of their honesty and character and were subject to similar ethics.

Now, I can seen no evidence whatsoever to suggest there is any better system of government than democracy and the US version is damned good too.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 14 July 2016 1:40:03 PM
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"I am heartily sick of the leftists - types like the Trotskyist NSW Greens - who are forever trying to bring police and other supports and GLUE of society into disrepute. "

Thatnks, otb...you never disappoint us....now find a way to include "feminists" and you'll be home and hosed!
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 14 July 2016 2:11:31 PM
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