Hi there ARMCHAIR CRITIC...

You've certainly embraced this topic with some far reaching comments as to the why's and wherefores of events that have perhaps precipitated these shootings. Much of your hard work and research leaves me totally ignorant, as it were.

Of course AC I've heard much that has been attributed to the actions that've been orchestrated by Mr Geo.SOROS and ors. And I believe there's much still to come from further enquiries into Mrs Hilary CLINTON'S conduct as Secretary of State, pursuant to MR OBAMA'S directions ?

Otherwise AC I don't have sufficient knowledge to make any worthwhile comments on other matters you've raised, much of it allegedly of a conspiratorial nature ?

However you did raise the issue of US police travelling to Israel for the purpose of receiving specialised training in 'Krav Maga' (in Hebrew 'contact fight') the Israeli form of 'hand to hand' combat as practiced by the IDF & INP. Krav Maga's been practiced in Australia now for some time, including a trial with NSW Police. Though quite effective, it doesn't quite fit the needs of police who are required to deal with resistive conduct in an arrest situation.

Actually, some of the of the data you've supplied, is in reality, reversed. There have been a number of former US; police, Marshal Service, Secret Service, and former FBI operatives, sent to Israel for the purpose of instructing the Israeli National Police, in what's called 'Active Countermeasures'. I've no doubt as with all agencies, there's a good free flow of information and training between each of them ? AC I sincerely hope this explanation in some way, answers some of your queries. Thanks A C.

Hi there JAY of MELBOURNE...

As always, you present an altogether different precis of another possible motive, behind these senseless shootings. And I for one, couldn't possibly repudiate it. It's entirely possible there are other forces circulating that are driving this 'hate' altogether, and as usual it's always the naive pawns who're the ones that lose, when it's all said and done ? Thanks J of M

Hi o sung wu,
Maybe I went a bit far or off-topic with the Clinton / Soros backstory thing but it is all kind of interesting given they are pushing gun laws and the media is trying to keep the story off Hillary atm.
Attorney General Loretta Lynch came into the picture with the HSBC scandal as well so they're all in cohoots together.
Hillary's not out of the woods just yet either btw, Trey Gowdy has just questioned whether or not she committed perjury last October.

Anyway...
My housemates have done some Krav Maga in years past though not any more.
I've been made to watch Bas Rutten videos more than a few times.
Some of those old Pride fights are pretty brutal.
http://youtu.be/7L_AuvaWIh4

I think there's a military version of Krav Maga which also contains kill moves which aren't allowed to be trained to members of the public, but I'm not sure whether or not US police are trained in these methods.
I didn't know the NSW Police had been given training, though I'm not opposed to them having the training to protect themselves whilst on the job.
I had the impression the Israeli training was more counter-terrorism stuff.

I don't know much about dealing with resistive conduct in an arrest situation.
I surely don't envy the job you've had to do nor the kinds of people you've surely often had to deal with.
I do know however, (and forgive me for saying it) that there's a technique trained in security courses where the police or security officer attempting to detain yells out very loudly "Stop resisting" even if the person isn't resisting.
And this is so any bystanders who hear the commotion automatically think the person is resisting.

Just for the record, I may be a bit of a conspiracy theorist, but this does not mean I'd want to see either Police or citizens treated unfairly.

Dear Armchair critic,

You use the supposed IRS 'attacks' to illustrate a form of governmental tyranny from which the populace is 'justified' in arming themselves to combat it.

Meanwhile the roll call of prodominately black men and boys being shot by police in actions that seem bereft of real legitimacy doesn't seem to warrant in your mind armed resistance by that community.

Which instance is a greater threat to life? I hope you can see the discrepancy in your stance.

Dear o sung wu,

I'm not sure you are a fan of The Wire but I thought this speech by Colvin hit the mark.
http://youtu.be/BA5za4VsskM?t=1m5s

Armchair Critic, "the Clinton / Soros backstory thing but it is all kind of interesting given they are pushing gun laws and the media is trying to keep the story off Hillary atm"

You are right to say that 'gun control' is a diversion to keep scrutiny away Hilary Clinton, particularly her mismanagement of email and disregard for security.It isn't the licensed citizen who is the problem.

Most US states have useful gun laws in place already. Invariably gun violence is simply a subset of the violence wrought by black on black (or as a distant second, by Hispanics), involving gangs and drugs.

What is needed is evidence based laws that attempt to treat identified risks with robust, effective, management controls. That is firearms REGULATION.

Not some catch-cry of 'gun control' that can and does play to certain interests, in particular some wealthy individuals who are not especially known to even pay US taxes but put their money into tax havens abroad. This is Soros, for instance, the billionaire international currency dealer behind 'gun control' activists, who makes mega millions out of any civil unrest and is presently raking the dollars in from Brexit,

<Panama Papers reveal George Soros’ deep money ties to secretive weapons firm

BILLIONAIRE George Soros, who has spent millions of dollars financing Democrats and left-wing causes, used a controversial Panamanian law firm to establish a web of offshore investment partnerships that operate around the world and out of the scrutiny of US regulators, according to leaked documents.
..
Soros’ offshore companies may not pay US taxes (his spokesman, Michael Vachon, declined to answer that question), but the billionaire donates lots of money to Democrats who write and enforce the tax laws. In the 2004 presidential election, he contributed $US24 million ($33 million) to George Bush’s opponents. He is the largest donor to Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the presidency>
http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/tax/panama-papers-reveal-george-soros-deep-money-ties-to-secretive-weapons-firm/news-story/4f34cba3104155cdce5f93ec7751d729

It is interesting how the Open Society arm of the Soros octopus was linked with the Panama Papers leaks but Soros himself wasn't mentioned. Also in the article linked to above.

The Soros outfit is often alleged top be interfering in the domestic politics of the US and other western democracies. He is a capitalist and a globalist. But above all, he makes $billions out of currency dealing.

Trust the Soros outfit and his 'Open Society' (a sly misnomer like 'gun control')? No way! Australians rightly object to outsiders interfering in domestic politics and his sort of capitalist globalism stinks, with extremely wealthy overseas corporations and individuals covertly influencing/manipulating events (eg through stage managed protests) and government.

Hi again STEELEREDUX...

No I'm not a regular viewer of American police series, though I have seen this particular show on occasions, preferring instead to view many of the British versions.

In my over thirty two years in the job the one thing I've learned - you simply cannot do the job satisfactorily and effectively, without first obtaining the cooperation of the general public. Without that, you're already behind the game. Furthermore there's a huge line of demarcation between; the civilian police service and the military - never the twain should meet. In reality STEELEREDUX, the police are merely an extended arm of the general public, that's despite what some less mature coppers might believe ?

Hi there once more ARMCHAIR CRITIC...

Personally I don't believe Krav Maga is any more, or any less effective, in dealing with highly resistive conduct during an arrest scenario. I spent time with Mr Bruce SIDDLE Chief DTI of the Greater St Louis MO., Police Department, who developed the highly effective PPCT method of subject control. I've personally, operationally applied this technology (SIDDLE's PPCT), when I was a trainer with the original TRG, and it worked splendidly, even with extremely violent females, with very few physical injuries being occasioned to subjects. The predominant principal behind PPCT is essentially that of 'pain compliance' with an absence of physical injury.

Many of the States and AFP jumped on board, until a couple of young 'socially enlightened' Doctors in Victoria I think, proclaimed to all and sundry that PPCT was potentially dangerous and could prove fatal if used too zealously ? This is DESPITE the extensive medical research, conducted at considerable expense, by the State of Missouri, and the Greater St Louis Police Department. It is my humble opinion, PPCT is far more preferable than whacking someone over the head with a KB26K long baton ? However, what would I know, I was only trained as an Instructor of PPCT ?