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USA: Cops killing Blacks - Raciest Homicide or Justified ?

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As a retired policeman I can categorically state; the paramount duty of ALL police, is the protection of life above everything else.

This statement has the same weight and equivalent importance in the United States of America, as it is here in Australia.

So what's going on in Dallas TX at this time ? Five police officers have been allegedly shot dead and many others wounded. Why did it happen ? Apparently according to media sources, there's a strong sense among the broader African American community that some white police are so driven by raciest hatred, they'll take any opportunity to shoot a black person who they believe is involved in the commission of a serious crime. Particularly if that individual is armed.

There's little doubt, there are a small number of white (raciest) Officers, in less populated jurisdictions, especially those found in the old Confederacy States, who apparently believe should they ever need to engage an armed black, and they end up shooting the person, rarely will that shooting ever be ordained by the authorities, as not being 'righteous' or deemed 'questionable'.

If there's ever a question raised as to the legitimacy or legality of such a shooting, they believe their administration, and if necessary, their Twp/City judiciary will manipulate the facts and circumstances of the event, to suit a judicial presumption, 'the Officer acted both lawfully and courageously when he discharged his firearm'.

I wonder therefore if we're about to witness an ugly explosion of renewed racial tension, in the South ? I don't know. What I do know, there are many, many fine and honourable law-enforcement Officers in the USA. It would indeed be catastrophic for such a small number of racists police, to cause such a serious dislocation of the existing harmony between the majority of blacks and white police Officers.

I do wonder whether many African American's have in reality, a legitimate complaint against their police ? Evidence suggests that many of these black gang members, are armed when they go about committing their crimes. What of them ?
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 9 July 2016 4:03:56 PM
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From the stuff I've seen it appears that this is a bit like our black deaths in custody syndrome. There are more white deaths, & the deaths are pretty much equal in relationship to the numbers of each group involved. In fact it appears there are a higher percentage of Hispanics killed, compared to their criminal representation.

Being a cop on many areas of the USA is a dangerous occupation, & this makes them rather more to shoot first, to protect themselves.

There are always members of the community who can profit from conflict with authority, & an easily recognised group are often more easily roused to violence.

The normal law abiding negro Americans would be wise to have nothing to do with this. Conflict will gain them nothing, & will probably mean police will be less willing to come to their aid, fearing ambush in black areas.

Only the criminal & some areas of the bureaucracy will benefit from this, & every one else only suffer.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 9 July 2016 9:31:42 PM
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Hey o sung wu,

First 3 Points:
1. Support for BLM movement by George Soros (US$33 million) to deliberately cause civil unrest
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/how-george-soros-singlehandedly-created-european-refugee-crisis-and-why
2. US police trained with Israeli (Occupation) police tactics
http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-police-routinely-travel-to-israel-to-learn-methods-of-brutality-and-repression/5473282
3. Veterans medicated on SSRI drugs (Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibitors)
http://ssristories.org/

Also the disturbing state of US politics regarding Hillary Clinton; the fix is in.
The FBI are not going to presucute Hillary Clinton over the email scandal and she's guilty of a felony violation of Title 18 Section 793.

Theres a backstory to the Clintons which everyone should read:
http://prorev.com/connex.htm

And also the backstory about FBI Director James Comey.
He was working for as an executive for HSBC during the money laundering scandal with the Mexican drug cartels, and was probably given the job because he was able to be controlled.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/07/06/comey-oversaw-drug-cartel-money-laundering-operations-as-a-top-executive-at-hsbc-bank/

Now you start to see the big picture unfold.
And with the Clintons good mate George Soros helping to cause civil unrest with BLM we might not even get to a US election.
The 'October Surprise' they've been telling us all about for years might actually come true.
They may initiate martial law to avoid Donald Trump taking the helm.
Hillary now HAS to get rid of Trump, or she's going down and word is she plans taking everyone with her if she goes.
Trump said he'll prosecute her if he wins, and she can still be charged.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/23/donald-trump-pledges-to-prosecute-hillary-clinton-as-president/

So before you even look at this latest Dallas thing you have to look at the big picture going on in the background.
I think blacks are sometimes getting an unfair deal but other times the actions of police (Michael Brown) are warranted.
One thing I thought of was if police were aware of the statistics of blacks murdering blacks, then they probably have reason to be overcautious and make mistakes, though sometimes they do act like judge, jury and executioner which is unacceptable.
Police over there take care of their own, it's all a gang mentality.
Really, all this stuff is just about what gang you're in.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 9 July 2016 11:57:53 PM
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I would say the police are in a state of extreme fear to be so quick to kill.
2 police officers had that black man down, when did it escalate to a point of shooting him.

Obama can not get any talk going on gun control. So that says they have a long way to go to get any form of gun control. Posably civil war will come first.
Posted by doog, Sunday, 10 July 2016 8:39:55 AM
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The Dallas Killings Were Inevitable
http://www.amren.com/features/2016/07/the-dallas-killings-were-inevitable/

Black Lives Matter is founded upon lies, that's for sure but the Dallas shooter was, judging by his own admissions and social media persona inspired by Black supremacist groups and held a deep seated hatred of White people.
The two ideals are separate, BLM is a vehicle for empty social signalling by mainly White Leftists, it echoes the similarly hollow, useless, White led civil rights movements of the 1950's-60's.
The New Black Panthers and the other Black supremacists are tolerated by BLM and that's a problem, it'll come back to bite them just as tolerance of violent elements has destroyed the Left protest movement in Australia.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 10 July 2016 10:23:03 AM
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Hi there HASBEEN...

There's no doubt about it, policing in the US, especially in the bigger cities, is a very hazardous occupation. After completing my second school with the Bureau in 1987, I was invited to do a 'drive along' with the Elizabeth NJ Police Department, for the eight hour night shift. Elizabeth is the Container Port, for the City of New York, and is situated as the crow flies, seven miles from the City of Manhattan.

In order to comply with the 'economy of language', all that can be said - In just a very short eight hour period, that particular shift was the most astonishing, scary, entertaining, even distressing that I've ever experienced HASBEEN. Indeed the cops in the City of Elizabeth NJ, really do earn their money ! Very few of them ever reach their pensionable twenty years of service retirement, rather they burn out, well before in reality. Crimes of violence involving African Americans and Hispanics is rife. Interestingly, the only question they asked me; '...is there any vacancies in you Agency down under...'truly amazing ? Furthermore, almost eighty percent of all Patrolmen I spoke with, have second jobs. Some Departments 'lease out' 'off-duty' Officers to sporting fixtures etc.

G'day there DOOG...

I reckon you're so right, many cops in the big US cities are, if not scared, most certainly nervous, with a sense of hyper vigilance whenever they're performing duty. With respect of Mr OBAMA initiating meaningful gun control, I can't see it happening while the NRA hold substantial sway, over both the Democrats and Republican parties. Moreover even if there were a system of mandated regulatory possession of a F/A, how would they find those millions of hidden weapons, many of which are handguns and sub-machine guns, that have been secreted away for years ? It is a mess, which is surprising for such a clever country.
Posted by o sung wu, Sunday, 10 July 2016 3:00:51 PM
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