Poirot,

"The point we have been making is that if it's legislated to open-carry weapons or whatever with firearms...who takes into account the stupidity or maliciousness of the certain members of the general population?"

The point we have been making is that if it's legislated to drive cars or whatever....who takes into account the stupidity or maliciousness of the certain members of the general population; 394 dead by the latest official information, and that''s not even with weapons.

http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/dynamic/nsw-road-toll-daily.pdf

I am sure that the so called 'Negro-Americans'(politically loaded leftist junk language) who are doing well have a different and entirely commonsense explanation for their success, happiness and why they and their issue will continue to thrive in that wonderful democracy that is America.

They took advantage of the opportunities available to them and made the right choices, which usually require some self discipline, hard work and delayed gratification.

They take pride in themselves and do not make others the excuses for their own poor decisions.

There is no better system of government than democracy. The leftists in their echo chamber indulging their hatred of the US should sit down for a few minutes and actually listen to the migrants in the US and Australia who come from the manner of totalitarian regimes that the leftist favour -While quaffing their expensive monkey-crapped coffee that someone else had to gather, process, make and serve to them of course.

Hi there POIROT...

Of course American society is everyone, and includes everybody without exception. Regrettably, from my own 'limited' observations of American police in their workplace, it's not just a case of White officers vs Black Officers. In fact there are some very successful unions, and working relationships between Black and White cops, mainly in the bigger Departments in the larger more affluent cities.

Rarely will you manage to successfully orchestrate a Latino cop, to crew with a Black cop for eight hours. Save for detective squads. They're generally (unofficially) partition themselves into three. Black, White and Latino detectives and surprisingly they can generally work well together.

All C of P are mandated to create a working environment which is harmonious for all races in their Department. Apparently any sign of overt racism from anyone is sufficient grounds for instant dismissal. - The upshot of that is a simmering undercurrent of resentment and vocational acrimony.

Strangely White and Latino Patrolmen (uniformed) can be rostered together as crew, but prefer to crew with each other. I was surprised to see how many African Americans, held quite senior positions both in command and in the executive branch of most large Police Departments. Particularly if the City or Twp has a black Mayor.

G'day there PAUL1405...

Indeed, I hope I'm wrong too Paul ? I don't conceal the fact that I do enjoy my guns. I don't hunt, what I try to do, is place small holes in large paper targets with the aid of a F/A. However my greatest interest is in the engineering component of high quality small arms.

What does concern me greatly is the proliferation of all manner of F/A's in the United States of America. I didn't see the lad wandering around with an assault rifle over his shoulder, all because he has the 'right to bear arms' apparently ? What unadulterated nonsense !

He also has the 'right' to act responsibly, and not cause an already nervous citizenry to further anxiety, by observing this stupid irresponsible lad parading around with a F/A, notwithstanding his right to bear arms. Here, he'd cop several charges involving his behaviour, initially with his arrest, confiscation of his gun, causing serious alarm and affront, etc.

America seems to smitten with this notion, 'right to bear arms' so lets each houshold accumulate a mass of guns, just in case !

Hi again POIROT...

I read a substantial part of that extract you kindly sent me that was listed in 'Salon' apropos 'poor white trash'. It's certainly very true, the amount of homeless people that you see laying around the streets of so called affluent US cities, is a sad indictment on American society. Buffalo NY was one such metropolis that struck me as evidence of a broken community. As long as there's a plentiful supply of guns, why worry ?

Dear o sung wu,

An interesting question arises here that you are probably better qualified to answer than most.

Philando Castile was shot in his car after declaring that he had a concealed carry permit which meant when he reached for his ID as per the police instruction the officer felt in fear of his life and killed him.

However the interaction between Mark Hughes who was openly carrying a legally registered AK-15 and the officer to whom he turned his weapon in was very measured and respectful on both sides.
https://twitter.com/mikelesliewfaa/status/751292548258209793

So would a black man openly carrying a weapon garner a more 'measured and respectful' response from an attending policeman? Perhaps in such a weaponised society this may be a way of stabilising attitudes even if it is of the 'mutually assured destruction'variety.

Hey Steele Redux,
I think I heard yesterday that Philando Castile matched the description of a wanted black man who had just committed armed robberies, which was why they pulled him over and why the officer was acting the way he did.
No excuses for killing him though, but this is the backstory I heard.

If you go and look at all the stats you find that this whole situation isn't really a racial issue, twice as many white people are killed by police despite the fact blacks make up the bulk of arrests.
In this way it's the whites which are more likely to be killed by police.
Also black people are 99% more likely to be killed by other blacks in their communities than by police so if its about black lives mattering, then for their own safety blacks needs to protected from other black people.
This is what the stats say.

This is truly more of a police brutality (or lack of the right training) issue rather than a race issue but its being portrayed as a race issue for political gain and no disrespect to o sung wu but one of the other big problems going on relating to police in the US is civil forfeiture.
Police are just blatantly robbing people.
Thankfully some of the states are now ending this practice.

Poirot,
Regards Donald Trump he's been saying the same things for decades.
'This Video Will Get Donald Trump Elected'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

I honestly don't understand the people who bash Trump and Hanson.
They may have their faults but they are more honest than any politicians any of our countries has had in decades.