@Poirot, Friday, 22 July 2016 11:56:26 AM

Trust the ABC, a looong column with plenty of words, a BLM inset and a beat-up to stir Oz indigenous activists.

Superficially, it does appear that some fool of a cop did something really stupid.

Here is the really good news (not 'fact checked' by the ABC):

- the media, anyone can publicise a complaint and with video footage;

- the incident will definitely be investigated very closely by other police and such investigations are harsh; and

- there is an appeals system including review in a democratically elected legislature.

Every attempt the Leftists make to drag the US down with conspiracy theories and alleged wrongs by government, eventually ends up proving the reverse, the strength of democracy and freedom of speech in the US.

Of course the leftists rely on creating a huge storm of protest before the facts and evidence are found by diligent investigators and put before a court where necessary. Protests that are first page news in tabloid today, but any apology IF forthcoming for a wrong, inflammatory report is very short and buried somewhere unlikely to be seen.

An abstract for some interesting experimental research at http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11292-012-9163-y

"Objective
Advance the methodological techniques used to examine the influence of suspect race and ethnicity on participant decisions to shoot in an experimental setting.

Results
In all three experiments using a more externally valid research method than previous studies, we found that participants took longer to shoot Black suspects than White or Hispanic suspects. In addition, where errors were made, participants across experiments were more likely to shoot unarmed White suspects than unarmed Black or Hispanic suspects, and were more likely to fail to shoot armed Black suspects than armed White or Hispanic suspects. In sum, this research found that participants displayed significant bias favoring Black suspects in their decisions to shoot."

That appears to match with findings I've seen which suggest that in the real world US police are more likely to shoot whites than blacks when involvement in violent crime is factored into the numbers.

R0bert

An article about the previously linked study at https://archive.is/ccDaI

R0bert

o sung wu,

"I fully understand many US police are becoming 'gun shy' - imagining every black has a F/A secreted about his person. I guess I'd be the same if I performed duty in a large US City. But they all have other less lethal force options available to them, before the need to resort to a F/A. Including:-"

Yes...I can see that they would be jumpy. With the plethora of firearms being toted around by the US population ,it makes for an extremely difficult task to police normal infringements.

Police in most other countries would have been able to deal with the situation without resorting to shooting. Even with that man prostate and visibly in surrender mode, he was shot.

I don't envy police in this situation. I think it's probably reached a point where this kind of thing is going to happen more often than not.

You can't allow the civilian population to possess such firepower - and then expect the police to be able to read their minds every time there's a confrontation.

Lol!.."prostrate"...

(I had it in mind when I wrote that not to get it wrong...but there you go...Poirot, the typo queen!)

Hi there POIROT...

I make no secret of the fact that I like the United States, and many of it's citizens. Therefore it makes me very sad indeed to see what's happening over there, with this profusion of guns among many of the general population, who really have absolutely no reason whatsoever to possess a F/A.

A good friend of mine, formerly a SSA with the Bureau, and the PFI for the entire West Coast, has since retired, and now provides an eight hour tactical pistol seminar, for the private sector. He's indicated the amount of work he's so far booked up, is already beyond February of 2017 and without any signs of slowing down. With many of the potential applicants, particularly women, seeking to undertake the 'concealed carry' tactical seminar, for personal safety.

Interestingly, the 'judgement' section - {'shoot'; 'don't shoot'} most students in their edgy, nervous, haste, shoot an innocent person. When reminded of the consequences, if that shooting had occurred in 'reality', the student could well be charged with manslaughter, or worse still second degree murder ?

When questioned as to why they shot an innocent person, '...I was so nervous...' or '...I couldn't see him clearly...' or worse '...it doesn't really matter, we're only under training...' ? Yes, they're only under training, so it doesn't really matter that much eh ?

Yet these folk have paid good money (c.$220 USD) to learn how to handle a pistol, both strategically, safely and tactically, in order to save themselves or another, from a violent attack. 'Judgement shooting' is vitally important for the most obvious reasons.

Yet these 'trained' individuals will be cut loose, to roam about in public, toting a concealed 'loaded' F/A, with some 'false' impression they're all quite accomplished and masterly with a powerful handgun ? And we here in Australia, inoffensively wonder why the American police are so nervous and jumpy when performing duty in the predominately black projects, and the streets and public places, that surround those projects ?