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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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Well done Runner you are on the money. If you want to support your post with some evidence you need go no further than look here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbq63r7rys
Posted by BAYGON, Monday, 20 June 2016 11:18:33 AM
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Baygon,

This proof that left whingers have no sense of humour.

One of the first things the media knew of the attack, was the gunman phoning up the media and the police and claiming that the attack was on the behalf of ISIS.

That subsequent investigation turned up that the gunman frequented ISIS websites, and expressed extremist and homophobic views to his colleagues made a firm link between Islamic extremism and this terrorist act.

Given that ISIS revels in its brutality chopping off heads for the flimsiest reasons and burning women alive for resisting rape, it could credibly be claimed that any ISIS follower had mental health problems.

The media are simply calling a spade a spade.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 20 June 2016 11:59:37 AM
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Shadow, I don't often agree with what you say, but in this case you state the obvious. Any individual that massacres 49 innocent people in the way Mateen did in Orlando cannot be considered normal, and must have had mental health issues, the bloke was a nutter!

It is easy to look at the whole issue in a simplistic way, Islamic fundamentalism, plus ISIS, plus the radicalized and mentally unstable Mateen, equals 50 dead people, that is fact. However, I believe there are wider questions to be answered, gun control laws, how to deal with all forms of radicalism external and internal, religious fundamentalism, the stabilization of the world, particularly the Middle East and many more problems. If the world including Australia fails to address those, and other difficult, complex questions, then deaths from war and terrorism are going to continue unabated. The world needs to come to the realization that the past and present approach is not working, and something different has to be done, and done soon.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 6:02:41 AM
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Paul,

To compare guns with extremist radical islamic teachings, 99.99% of people that have guns don't actually go out and shoot people. Similarly 99.99% of muslims taught that Sharia law is the will of god incl that homosexuals should be executed don't go out on a killing rampage.

Using the same logic, the world would be safer with fewer guns and Imams that preach hate/murder of gays heretics etc would be banned from preaching.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 8:51:01 AM
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Senate rejects four gun-control measures after Orlando shooting

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-florida-shooting-guns-idUSKCN0Z61BS

"The U.S. Senate on Monday rejected four measures restricting guns after last week's mass shooting in an Orlando nightclub, although lawmakers were still trying to forge a compromise that could keep firearms away from people on terrorism watch lists.

In a familiar setback for gun control advocates, all four of the measures to expand background checks on gun buyers and curb gun sales to those on terrorism watch lists - two put forth by Democrats and two by Republicans - fell short of the 60 votes needed for passage in the 100-member chamber."

"Republicans and their allies in the NRA gun lobby said the Democratic bills were too restrictive and trampled on the constitutional right to bear arms. Democrats attacked the Republicans' plans as too weak."

An average of 27 people a day murdered by firearms in the US.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 9:53:11 AM
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Let's face it, SM.

If Mateen had entered a gay bar with a revolver and shot one patron, you wouldn't have even have noticed the story, let alone started a thread to blame Islam about for the entirety of it.

The fact that Mateen could easily access an AR-15 and take out 49 patrons in one murderous action appears to have escaped your venerable analysis.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 10:28:45 AM
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