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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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and the excuse for your hatred Rache?
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 7:48:59 PM
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Poirot,

Have you never heard of a Speed Loader?
Especially developed to facilitate the very speedy reloading of revolvers and remember that well made double action revolvers (the norm) have a higher cyclic rate of fire than semi-automatic pistols.

As for peoples' reactions, one survivor of Port Arthur said that the murderer was standing right in front of him when he, the murderer, changed magazines.
One survivor of Orlando related how he heard the empty casings hitting the floor, then a pause as the mag was changed.
Compare these instances with the soldier who was torn apart by the people in Tiananmen Square when he attempted to change magazines.

Peoples' reactions vary and no one who has not been trained should be blamed for not having a go at an armed attacker; it takes split second reactions and timing to take a gun away from someone and one must be prepared to kill to do so.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 8:31:20 PM
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"and the excuse for your hatred Rache?"

Never mine runner, rache.

He always accuses others of hatred around here.

It's what he uses in the absence of debating skills.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 8:55:51 PM
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Poirot,

This puts the last nail in the coffin for your "not islamic extremist" theory.

"The FBI and the US Justice ­Department stand accused of suppressing the role of Muslim ­extremism in the Orlando nightclub massacre — by censoring gunman Omar Mateen’s support for Islamic State and its leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

“I pledge allegiance to (omitted) may God protect him (in Arabic), in behalf of (omitted)” read the first version of the self-proclaimed “Islamic soldier’s” calls to 911 from the Pulse gay nightclub.

The redacted version of the killer’s phone calls during the slaying of 49 people prompted social media uproar, and ridicule from Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan yesterday.

In apparent lock-step with US President Barack Obama’s contempt for the “distraction” posed by the words “radical Islamist ­extremism”, the FBI came under pressure for withholding Islamic State-related elements of its ­inquiry and transcripts of much of Mateen’s phone calls and social media activities.

FBI spokesman Ronald Hopper said: “Part of redacting is to not give credence to individuals who have done terrorist acts in the past. They are not going to propagate their violent rhetoric.”

Mr Ryan replied in a tweet: ­“Selectively editing this transcript is preposterous. We know the shooter was a radical Islamist ­extremist inspired by ISIS).”

The FBI said it had redacted then reinstalled several mentions of Islamic State so it did not “revictimise” the victims and give ­extremists “a publicity platform for hateful propaganda”.

Mateen’s Islamic exhortations, pledges of support to Islamic State, and religious and ideological fervency appeared to contradict FBI director James Comey’s claim on June 13 that “at this time it’s not entirely clear just what terrorist group he aspired to support”.

The new information indicated a far more coherent and determined Islamic State-devoted killer, aware of recent terror attacks and the key grievances of jihadists than had been admitted."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 5:13:18 AM
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What we do know, regardless of what motivated Mateen, is the fact he was easily and legally able to obtain the necessary firearms to carry out his terrible crime. Surely this must sound alarm bells that something with gun laws is not right in America, but it seems not. We cannot be complacent in Australia, Ian Turnball was also able to obtain a legal firearm to commit premeditated murder in our country.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 8:02:22 AM
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SM,

None of that changes the fact that Mateen was able to slay so many people because he had access to powerful semi-automatic weaponry.

Don't quote me articles and then fail to include the relevant link.

Where's the link?
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 8:08:14 AM
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