Foxy, I notice a number here criticise you for being very even handed, re moslems and
the rest of us.
I think your problem is that you do not seem to recognise that moslems ARE different !
They have quite a different ethical approach. Just one example;
They Koran tells them that it is OK to lie to infidels if it gives an advantage to Islam.
If you think about that one thing, you can see it would distort polls that ask their opinion of terrorist acts.

"Foxy, I notice a number here criticise you for being very even handed, re moslems and the rest of us"

Evenhanded?! That is the spin to get the high moral ground.

Apart from Foxy sledging Australians as "Nullarboring", xenophobes, racists and many other undeserved epithets, and requiring endless diversity that she would label genocide if the policy was directed at another people.

Bazz,
Religion aside the people we're talking about are not capable of understanding the message of tolerance and harmony or taking on board the concepts put forward by their White apologists.
The apologists of Islam, the commies and the self styled "Anti Racists" either talk down to minority groups or the things they say go over the heads of their less intelligent "community members".
You can't explain very much at all to people with an IQ in the 90's so the message from the "Anti Racists" will be completely lost on Lebanese, Pakistanis and Afghans who have a median IQ of 75.
I suspect that the Koran is unintelligible to the vast bulk of Muslims anyway, even the ones who can read and write, strict observance boils down to a simple ritual performed several times a day and participation in religious festivals, there's no inspection of the self or higher understanding of philosophy amongst the masses.

o sung wu,

My disposition, in the posts that I’ve addressed to you, have been more cautious and inquisitive than I usually am on OLO. The reason for that is because I’m still relatively new to all this and I’m discussing it with someone who has decades of experience. No data whatsoever favours a purely traditional policing strategy over contemporary strategies, so I thought it would be interesting to hear from someone who appeared to disagree (particularly now with your expressed preference for the “knock-about sort of bloke”) and whose opinion may count for something. Unfortunately, however, all I have received is grumpiness, evasiveness, insults and a show of contempt.

You sound more interested in defending a conservative worldview and a preserving a hatred for anything academic than sharing what you know; justifying your position; or perhaps seeing things from a more modern policing perspective that what you’re used to.

Dear Nathan,

Perhaps you are confusing me for someone else?
Because I never said or implied that we (non-Muslims) are perfect - in fact my views regarding the deficiencies of Western culture are well known in this forum.

If you are perhaps referring to my response to O Sung Wu, I was referring to the Lebanese culture, rather to Muslims in general: somehow they have a particular dispensation for crime and there is nothing wrong with Australians defending themselves from imported crime. In comparison, I find Jordanians wonderful and honourable people, so they should not be painted with the same brush.

ConservativeHippie,

In no way, shape of form do I support terrorism.

Being vegetarian however my parents having never liked this, since I took it up as a high school project. During the project itself, my mum dumped a plate of meat in front of my face and demanded I eat it. I said no. Out of home for about 7 years and my parents still bring up the issue. I get very annoyed with them about it. Examples:

1. Blaming an epileptic seizure I had based on not eating meat. I had epilepsy from about eight years of age and was eating meat then.

2. A few years ago demanding I see a GP, thinking I looked Ill being vegetarian. We started having a large (verbal) fight outside my unit. I eventually caved in. My GP said I looked fine.

3. Constantly being told to take vitamin tablets, when I have had blood tests, (medication related) stating I'm fine nutrient wise.

4. Brought this issue up again recently, and I had another (verbal) fight with one of my parents.

I don't go around telling other people to stop eating meat, I don't walk up to butchers shops and scream at people telling them about the animals that are slaughtered to death and the pain they are put through - as I don't wan't force placed on me, like I currently get.

I respect freedom of choice - despite the fact I consider the meat industry as "criminal" and one of parents used to work in a meatworks.

So I do object to people on this page targeting those who are Muslim, who don't break the law (and are very unlikely to) because it is a basic human rights issue of liberty and respect. You can't live a normal life, when you are constantly targeted by others, having people stand a high moral ground or basing their case on silly surveys or biased what-evers, like my parents do on vegetarianism. Do we want to live in a society that respects others or think about "terrorism" every morning?