NathanJ - I'd like to get a better understanding of where you are coming from in your defence of Muslim people and clarify where my position is for your understanding.

I have nothing against any Muslim person from any country that isn't harming or tacitly supporting the harm of others. However in this, (you'll appreciate, year 2014) the terrorists causing harm throughout the world are 95+% of the time, are from the Islamic faith and therefore are Muslim people creating harm on others, including other Muslims. I do care. I also do not want that kind of terrorism or thinking spreading into Australia.

What I don't understand from your comments is whether or not you believe what you say or if you are just playing devil's advocate. Much of your comments twist the logic so far that the comment barely makes sense.

I'm genuinely trying to understand you but when you make statements like (I'm paraphrasing now) "so many people are blaming Muslims; its like meat eaters hating me for being vegetarian" you lose me.

The one thing I haven't been able to glean from your previous posts is whether or not you are willing to condemn ISIS and other Islamic extremist groups.

Poirot,

Poirot again to the rescue to a damsel in distress. Females in full emotion. Everything in your head becomes personal. Slipping and sliding away and unable to face facts or offer any insight. Its just to horrible to imagine, isn't it. GROW UP.

I have offered more than my own personal experience with plenty of qualified references now and in the past of which you have deliberately ignored.

You are living in the wilderness. Back off and get serious.

Yvonne, Yvonne,

Where have you gone?

“It really isn't a battle between Islam and Christianity. “ That’s right, it’s a battle between Islam and the Secular West.

“...with their brand of Catholicism still in the thrall of the inquisition and burning of witches.” Really? Tell me more.

o sung wu,

We're not taking counter-terrorism measures here, just an alleged change in recruitment policy. Journal articles discuss the recruitment decisions of police institutions all the time. This article from a peer-reviewed journal dedicated to FBI research appears to discuss FBI recruitment in some depth: https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/Publications/abstract.aspx?ID=134339. Anyway, you were only referring to the FBI limiting the degrees they take, so I guess it's not that important, more just a dig at those with higher education.

I guess I'll have to take your word for it that all these uni graduates had appalling writing skills. I would hate to see what the spelling and grammar was like for those who had no tertiary qualifications. From my observations, it's generally significantly worse.

As for your claims alluding to the cockiness and difficulty in training those fresh from university, I can certainly relate to that from my days of hiring and training staff. None of the advantages to higher education that I listed to Hasbeen (supported by hundreds of studies) are contradicted by what you say, however, because I have never seen an article claim that the qualification must come before recruitment; in fact some of the studies discuss the benefits of higher education to support the idea of police institutions putting their members through university in certain circumstances.

Well, as I said in my first response to you AJPHILIPS, I shall defer to your obvious greater knowledge of policing, and by that admission you should be deliriously happy !

I've taken the time to re-read your first paragraph, and I've not the faintest idea what it is your talking about therein, other than something about counter terrorism and FBI studies and recruitment ?

Your second paragraph; you say, inter alia '...I've just got to take your word about the level of writing of Uni. graduates...' or similar ? Well AJPHILIPS I couldn't care less what you accept or don't ? The less educated, the more pragmatic, knock about sort of bloke, with buckets of life experience, and common sense, generally speaking can express themselves far better than some of your more imperious academic dullards, that seemingly pervade your banal world of pedagogical scholarship. Give me the knock about bloke any day, as a potential police officer.

My final response to you - stay with your statistics, your myriad of studies, and in-depth, forensic thanatological investigation. And enjoy your world of tedious criminological analysis, and I bid you luck with whatever it is you wish to do with it all AJPHILIPS.

'evening to you (again) POIROT...

Thank you for that, in the approaching winter phase of my life, I do occasionally see myself entering upon a new more exciting field of human endeavour, not in terms of a new career, because at seventy five, nobody in their right mind would wish to employ me ? Perhaps a life coach or counsellor even ? My world's an oyster POIROT ?

On a more serious note, I can't possibly see a time when Christians or others who are principally atheistic, with a distinct secular mindset, will ever be capable of harmoniously co-existing with Islam ? It's my understanding, when those of the Islamic State are in charge, everyone will be mandated to convert to Islam, or else ?

Even those more moderate Muslims, many of whom would happily live peacefully, side by side with non Muslims, won't be allowed, by the more radicalised members of Islam ? What a mess eh POIROT ?