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The Forum > General Discussion > Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

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NathanJ,
Sophistry alert!.ISIS are in the right and pedophile priests are in the wrong,nothing ISIS does is prohibited by Islamic law whereas priests are prohibited from engaging in any sexual activity whatsoever.
A Muslim who supports ISIS can do so with a clean conscience, that's why when surveyed 70% of Muslims in both Western and Asiatic societies condoned or supported Jihadist activities and why the Islamic representative bodies refuse to condemn them. The few government approved traitors, the Liberal and Feminist Muslims who are speaking out are the minority viewpoint and don't represent the views of Muslims or the teachings of their Prophet.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 17 November 2014 1:49:42 PM
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Thank you AJPHILIPS for your response to my query. So you seek a degree in criminology, why ? What specific vocation does that degree suit the individual for ?

Is it your intention to pursue a police career ? Like many police who unintentionally fall foul of the senior executive, one is generally consigned to an area that least suits them as a penance of sorts ? in my case it was as a senior lecturer in the police academy. A position that attracts very little overtime or penalty rates !

Anyway, we went through a stage where Police Command decided they would only recruit graduates, or those substantially through an approved degree course. Therefore it came to pass, that we were imbued with a profusion of eager young, (well educated) men and women, all of whom were seeking to ameliorate a bad world, by making it 'right', both by the majesty of their presence and lofty ideals ?

I was I/C of what was then called the 'Powers' faculty, so all those young people spent quite some time with either myself or one of my staff. At the conclusion of each component, a written examination was mandated. And it became one of my more onerous duties, to mark and assess each students examination paper.

At least 65% to 75% of all examination papers submitted were frightful, totally shocking. Remember, these people were potential police members. Many couldn't spell even the simplest of words. Their punctuation was poor, as was their syntax. Their inappropriate use of parsing or phrasing made little sense. Any diacritical marking, when appropriate was pathetic. Even basic capitalising etc., all of it was truthfully, utterly appalling !

There is one area a police member must be reasonably proficient, they must write well ? Most police documentation, is subject to Court scrutiny, ex. the DPP. Even his contemporaneous notes, in his Notebook are the property of the Court and Police Command. My point being, I've little regard for these 'educated' police members. UNTIL they can adequately prove, 'fit for purpose' as it were, AJPHILIPS ?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 17 November 2014 2:37:58 PM
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Jay Of Melbourne,

"A Muslim who supports ISIS can do so with a clean conscience." Get serious.

And relying on survey figures: "like an ICM Research poll in 2006 which showed 20% of British Muslims felt sympathy with the July 7 terrorist bombers' "feelings and motives", although 99 per cent thought the bombers were wrong to carry out the atrocity.

In another poll by NOP Research, almost one in four British Muslims believe that the 7/7 attacks on London were justified. So figures are varied, as people will see on this page - and these come from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_attitudes_towards_terrorism#Polls

You might like to watch SBS world news (to see reality however) and see people's homes shattering due to terrorism and women crying in the streets because because one of their children has been killed due to terrorism. Was that because it was what they wanted in a suvey? Get serious.

As for Runner, "A person in a Christian church abusing a child knows it is straight out evil."

From an article written about well known Professor Freda Briggs from Adelaide University (who looks into the area of particularly child sexual abuse who says):

“Churches (Christian) are psychologically attractive to sex offenders because they can ask for forgiveness one day and offend again on another day."

http://www.news.com.au/news/child-sex-abuse-not-the-biggest-sin-and-confession-gives-a-clean-slate-pedophile-priests-believe/story-e6frfkor-1226515833723
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 17 November 2014 2:40:29 PM
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Actually AJPHILIPS I'd not entirely finished my response to your recent thread, I'd inadvertently exceeded my three hundred and fifty word limit, herein ?

There was an articulation used by the Bureau along the lines of 'academic arrogance' - an oft used expression to describe a double or multi-degree entrant to Quantico. The Bureau only accept applicants with an approved degree, no matter what sort of law enforcement antecedents a person may possess.

Those at Quantico hold little truck with these academics who enter the academy and attempt to dazzle all and sundry with their superior attitude. Unfortunately you reek of academic arrogance AJPHILIPS and will come a real cropper if and when you finally decide to (try) to join the job ?

Your remarks concerning HASBEEN are substantially unfounded too ? For your information, well before you were born, he was flying Royal Australian Navy Aircraft from an Aircraft Carrier, a slightly more intellectual demanding pursuit, than reading about something as dull as forensic psychiatry or similar ? A bad practice to make a false assumption about anyone, I would respectfully suggest ?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 17 November 2014 3:03:41 PM
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'“Churches (Christian) are psychologically attractive to sex offenders because they can ask for forgiveness one day and offend again on another day."'

I don't know why u can't think rationally Nathan. The fact that one needs to ask forgiveness shows that person knows its wrong. This is unlike secularist who have no moral basis at all for its dogmas. That is why u have the likes of Singer that condone bestiality.

The muslim terrorist believes he/she will be rewarded for evil with virgins except for the older men who have their share on earth.

Try thinking your very flawed narrative.
Posted by runner, Monday, 17 November 2014 3:22:21 PM
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Constance,

"Dear Foxy,

And why do you only consider your own personal experience with Muslims...?

Lol!

That, after Constance has regaled us with her personal experience of Muslims!

As in:

"That’s funny you mention podiatrist. I had a Muslim podiatrist also who I had been seeing for years. And guess what? She furked up my feet and tried to tell me that the pain I was feeling was a result of ageing. She subsequently fled Australia. I then tried another podiatrist and could not believe how much better my new orthotics were and my feet problems have since gone."

Love this too...

"They threw rubbish on the road in the National Park."

(Of course, non-Muslims never chuck about rubbish - especially in national parks)

"A Syrian doctor told me recently (who made it clear from the start that he is Christian) that THEY are animals, desert people who have no history."

Oh well, case closed...the "Christian" Syrian doctor has spoken!
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 17 November 2014 3:37:38 PM
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