o sung wu,

There is a broad range jobs in police, courts or corrections that a degree in criminology can be a foot in the door for. I’m keeping my options open for now, but need to bear my age in mind. Mostly I just needed a change in career.

As for these shocking papers you used to mark, I would be surprised if the tertiary education attained by many of them was actually university-level or something that wasn’t a highly practical degree; because handing in essays with the appalling writing skills that you describe would result in fails. One simply could not complete a degree if they were that bad.

As for Quantico, that’s a big place. Do you have any links that discuss what you were talking about? I did a Google search and a Google scholar search and couldn’t come up with anything.

I’m sorry I come across as arrogant to you. Do you have anything other than ad hominem attacks to support your claims that I’m wrong? You implied earlier that the relatively small funds directed towards the AIC would be put to better use divided up between the eight police institutions around the country, despite the fact that the data collated by the AIC enables police, courts and corrections around the country to focus their efforts more effectively and make their jobs more managable; saving the tax pay payer billions in the process. What about contemporary policing strategies; can you provide me with anything that contradicts my claims regarding their usefulness or superiority to the use of traditional policing strategies alone?

Finally, I have said nothing about Hasbeen’s intelligence. A person can be intelligent while still being ignorant about certain topics. His alleged intelligence says nothing about how right or wrong his claims were. I don’t see how you could determine that Hasbeen’s career in the navy is more “intellectually demanding” than criminological research either if you're not even sure what it is, or what it entails. Thanks for the put-down, but this is not a competition of who is smarter.

NathanJ, you're doing it again, it's the typical tactic of the Left, lie, distort and obfuscate because you don't have a leg to stand on then produce irrelevant information to try and regain the upper hand.
The Pew Institue paper surveyed about 500-900 people in each of the countries studied and found that in general those people didn't support killing non Muslim westerners in the name of Jihad.
But of course that's got nothing to do with my post which asserted that about 70% of the Muslims surveyed supported and approved of Jihadist groups, which is borne out in a similar sized sample taken by the University Of Maryland:
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf
Islam prohibits attacks on innocent people and commands Muslims to take up arms in defence of the defenceless, but of course U.S Marines, Iraqi policemen and Kurdish militiamen are neither innocent nor defenceless.
What's more the atrocity stories about children being executed and women raped en masse are undoubtedly bogus neo-Liberal propaganda. Just the other day Norwegian activists were busted faking war footage in collusion with the Syrian Observatory For Human Rights:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2835663/Syrian-hero-boy-FAKE-Footage-youngster-dodging-sniper-fire-rescue-girl-actually-shot-Gladiator-film-set-Norwegian-director-using-professional-actors.html

Dear Constance,

It appears from your posts that as far as Muslims
are concerned you tend to think in terms of
general categories, if only to enable you to make
sense of the world by simplifying its complexity.
Hence your personal references directed at me -
even to the degree that - I am not interested in protecting
Australia - (sic) - simply because my experiences of
Muslims differ from yours. Is quite offensive.

You seem to think that
my experiences are invalid. And yours are not -
What makes your experiences more valid?

As for protecting Australia?
I have made it quite clear that I am against terrorists,
extremists, thugs, criminals, of any persuasion.
And we have laws in this country which we expect everyone
to abide by.

To me your concepts are too vague and sweeping
in their scope and all in all your arguments appear
to be both irrational, and illogical because
they are rooted in generalisations and
you ignore not only the diferences among individuals
but you also ignore the actions of other individuals
guilty of doing bad things within our society.

All in all -you appear to have an irrtional, inflexible attitude
toward an entire category of people. You are not "judging"
Muslims - you're "prejudging" them. Which is unfortunate.
(as in prejudice). You believe that all Muslims share
the same supposed traits. They don't. And you seem to confuse
the general Muslim population with the fundamentalists and
extremists within their group. So very sad really.

Dear Poirot,

Well said.

I wish I had your talent for summing things up so well.

AJPHILIPS...

Concerning Quantico, I would hardly think the Bureau would consign anything to Google. As I was a former foreign attendee at the FBI Academy (1986 & '87 respectively), it would be patently inappropriate, nor permissible for me to share anything concerning the activities at Quantico with you AJPHILIPS ? However, for your edification the Marine Corps possess the Lion's share of the entire Quantico facility, whereas the Bureau have but a relatively small area, only about 250/270 acres in aggregate.

I believe you take yourself and your studies far too seriously, and for that reason I'm not sure what else I can say. Still, if you do wish to pursue a career in, wherever your criminology degree may take you, well good for you. However, you have much to learn about policing per se ?

For your further information, the police recruits who came through the academy during my period of penance, were ALL graduates ranging from Criminology, Economics, Accountancy, Social Science etc. three were former graduates from ADFA. I was seconded ('press ganged') to speak to graduates from Uni.of Sydney, UNSW, UWS, and Macquarie University, in a somewhat inane attempt to attract graduate recruits to the NSW Police Service. I can assure you categorically, none of the detectives I've ever worked with, harboured any enthusiasm for further numbers of these so described, 'academics' to occupy important 'position numbers' in the force !

The best recruits I found, were those who'd hitherto, been members of the Armed Forces, had done their time, and were seeking a new career. While it's true some did have degrees, nevertheless these men and women had loads of maturity and more importantly an abundance of 'common sense' a commodity you just can't teach ! A virtue sadly lacking in many of those with so called, exemplery academic achievement ! Might it be this iniquitous 'academic arrogance' the yanks used to speak of, do you think AJPHILIPS ?

Concerning tertiary studies, the general view was, by all means, but first, learn your policing trade thoroughly, and if successful, go do your additional studies.

Hi there POIROT...

Why is it that I have this enduring sense that you're a cynic ? Whether it be politics, social issues, or anything; even murder, rape or mayhem, you manage to inject your own brand of cynicism or scepticism ? Is it that your personal credo is so pragmatic you cannot envisage anything that's not empirically black or white, or must it be a shade in between ? I will admit to being very much a pragmatists too, as was our well regarded (former) colleague BELLY. But I really think you even triumph over me, for ultra-discernment and judiciousness ?

o sung wu,

Congrats on your in-depth analysis.

But I was just pointing out a spot of hypocrisy s'all....