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The Forum > General Discussion > Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

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Dear Bazz,

Perhaps the following link may help
clarify things:

http://www.globalfocus.org/GF-Religion.htm
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 3:13:42 PM
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@Foxy, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 1:12:32 PM

Claims?! You mean facts, because it wasn't Philip Adams on OLO spruiking his offensive claim that Australia was 'Nullaboring' and so on, it was you, under your Lexi and Foxy nicks.

Obviously you must have agreed with Adams and likely still do, otherwise why keep using his words and at times without even attributing the words to him? Fact is, you agreed with the slight against Australians and also exhibited the cultural elitism and cultural cringe that leftists in Australia are known for.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 3:27:04 PM
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Yuyutsu, highlights many of the issues very well.

Example: People being put in very difficult situations, by others. Women wearing the burqa having their clothing pulled from behind on the streets, by people who dislike their clothing. Some were interviewed (for news services) and said they didn't like it.

Example: After being diagnosed with a bone density condition from Epilepsy medication I was on (and allergic to), a new medication for the bone density condition, had gelatine in it and I REFUSED to take it.

For me it was like eating a meat tablet.

Luckily I was able to take vitamin tablets, along with another prescription medication, however if I was forced to take the other medication alone I would REFUSE it - and I went vegetarian at 17.

No laws, no nothing. I don't care about that - when dealing with the rights of all living creatures on the planet (being a personal life view).

In terms of Sharia Law, (or any law) for that matter, that can be a difficult issue. Law, (may or may not) be in place, or be poorly written.

For example, you can have "law", but if someone believes in something, like "Sharia" just in principle alone, (or something else for that matter) that's not necessarily going to stop a person from conducting acts relating to it.

One only has to look at Martin Bryant who murdered 35 people and injured 23 others. He wasn't thinking about law and order at all and there have been other insidious crimes across Australia and worldwide.

The Governments proposed program of ($13 million dollars) for Australian Muslim youth, at risk of getting influenced by radical Islamist groups or ideologies, will make little or no difference in my view. Parents need to be the guiding factor - that being a quality parent (or set of parents) for the children in terms of how they are raised.

If someone is "fixed" with an ideology, law can't change that.
Posted by NathanJ, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 4:16:38 PM
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otb,

We all cite links that we think are relevant
to our responses to discussions on the forum.
You've been told that by myself and many other posters
in the past. You cite links that suit your agenda.
Therefore your objections are not logical.

However, part of the problem here is
that no matter what opinion I express on any discussion-
or who I cite
you will always find something wrong -
and all sorts of accusations will arise - from
"cherry-picking," to "sledging," to name-calling,
to labeling, et cetera, et cetera,
ad nauseum.

It is unfortunate that you persist in this sort of behaviour
towards me on this forum.
And, frankly it's becoming somewhat tedious
to continue politely to explain things to you.

Hmmmmm. What a conundrum?
What should I do?

Ignore? Reply? Explain?
Deny?

I'll have to give it the serious thought and
time that it justly deserves.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 4:43:06 PM
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Foxy,

It is always a long shot trying to get you to be accountable for your opinions.

As for you playing victim again, I might remind you that you are continually getting bent out of shape where others question your views. There are examples in this thread, in replying to Constance for instance:

Foxy, Monday, 17 November 2014 5:00:22 PM
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 5:01:21 PM
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Oh Gawd...somebody save us from otb and his melodramatic faux outrage.

He loves to shriek loudly about his wounded sensibilities while putting the boot in.

I'd change yer trousers, Foxy...once he's got hold of the hem, he's not likely to let go until he brews up his next chagrined lament.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 5:08:35 PM
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