runner, the reports I know of on that suggest it was carried out by Hundu extremeists. An example here http://m.asianews.it/index.php?art=13449&l=en

If anything thats about extremism rather than a particular faith.

The issue for me in this and taking into account Yvonne's comments is about a future whe extremism in some religions seems to be on the rise. In particular muslim extremism and what the future holds for our nation with pockets of either moderately anti-western or extemist followers of a faith that does appear to give plenty of scope for very violent dealings with opponents.

The moderates bother me enough because I suspect that much of the groundwork for radicalisation is laid by moderates who may not promote the violence but who teach the young over and over again of the evils of non-believers ways.

R0bert

'morning o sung wu,

The last time Islam coexisted with other religions was under Mongul rule 1221 to 1262 under superior military force, When the Monguls took out the Assasins and captured Baghdad and Damascus, Islam was a pussy. Now Islam is a potent socio-political force in the western world and it is basically too late for many.

It's interesting that ISIL tactics are very much based on those of the Monguls who defeated them.

For much of the EU and the UK it is already too late. There is no appeasement of Islam and the most dangerous amongst us are those who think appeasement has value.

It seems that Temujin Kahn laid the foundations of the defeat of those bits of the world he did not subdue, by proxy through those he did subdue, Islam.

Islam, like the Monguls, is fighting internecine battles to slaughter their own and anything else that they don't like. Within western society they suck on the economy through Halal compliance, draining the social services budget and force us to appease through political correctness.

There is a long way to go with Islams brutality and social incursion, sadly we are ill prepared as evidenced by the EU experience.

We cannot make informed decisions as we are not well informed, consequently we will continue to follow the PC path to being dominated by ignorance.

Under Ogodie Kahn, the Muslim community in Baghdad were subjected to the import of 30,000 piglets from Armenia which were to be fed and washed every Saturday and they were forced to eat pork under pain of beheading.

Sounds like a cure to me!

'morning Yvonne,

You have a tentative grasp on facts. Saudi Arabia is based on Wahabi Islam and definitely not Sunni, their main enemy. Just go to KL and watch the Saudi males arrive in white robes, the women in full Hijabs at the airport, then by seven PM they are out in western clothes ready for hitting the clubs and copious amounts of alcohol.

You say "too many think"........etc, don't you think it's time you did the same, at least to the extent that you get your facts right?

Wahabism is a philosophical movement within Sunni Islam.
Yvonne,
Indonesia is one of the most egregious modern examples of the violence inherent in Islam, about a million people were murdered by religious extremists in the 1960's, tens of thousands in East Timor and West Papua and nobody really knows how many died in Aceh and Kalimantan. When I was in Lombok one of the guys we hired to take us out snorkelling at Gili Trawangan pointed out to us on the boat ride the beach where his people beheaded thousands of "communists" in the 1960's and threw them into the sea.
Apart from the wars on the subcontinent Islam in Indonesia has the most horrific body count and the dictator Suharto was propped up by his fundamentalist Islamic support base.
As for Malaysia silly middle class white people never bothered to read any of the writings of Mahathir or listen to Najib exhorting his racial supremacist brethren in UMNO to be "Brave like ISIS" in their fight for political and ethnic survival.
Heck I agree with him when he makes staements such as the following but I'm sure you don't Yvonne:
“For example, when someone dares to fight to their death, they can even defeat a much bigger team.
“As proof — whether we agree or not is another matter — the group ISIL with the strength of just 1,300 people, can defeat an Iraqi army of 30,000 soldiers, until four, five generals with three, four stars run for their lives, jump out the window at night. Why? Because they are afraid of those who are brave,”

A very interesting collection of views thus far ? From what I've read it would seem there's very little chance that we, or any other western (Christian) democracy can live harmoniously with them. Though as HASBEEN pointed out, in Spain at one time, Muslims and Christians alike, did manage to live quite successfully together ?

The only question that I have, do any of them actually want to be wholly accepted by us here ? Or would most of them wish to remain quite isolated from the broader Australian community. Or is it their express wish to remain in their own exclusive, cloistered community, albeit peacefully ?

I understand many of the more moderate, more vocal Muslims, wish to live completely amicably and co-operatively within ordinary Australian society ? It would seem the younger, more angry second generation Muslims, they seem to resist any attempt to dissuade them from living in this isolationist environment, notwithstanding they're born here ? Why, what have we done that they would seek to turn on us, so malevolently, and so venomously ?

I can point you folks to some very long videos where so called "moderate" Muslims talk about the inevitable destruction of the West and the Zionist entity, how they're going to take our sons and send them back to us as conquering Jihadi generals like Ali Pasha.
Have we mentioned Sufis? All the silly White people love "mystical" Sufism ,but here's a leading Sufi Imam talking about Islamic eschatology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAqGA92rc1Y
Who are the Wahabi's? What is there message ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JTd9R2K9js