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The Forum > General Discussion > Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

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Jay,

Exactly.
Posted by Constance, Monday, 17 November 2014 9:39:19 AM
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Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

Simplistically stated it all depends on two factors (1) the Christian's ability to practice the 'Love thy neighbour' principle; and (2) the Muslim's willingness to be active participants in the society rather than opting to segregate themselves into closed communities.

There are plenty of examples within our communities of everyday middle class Christians and Muslims living in close proximity without conflict. The Islamic extremists on the other hand have no desire to peacefully coexist with anyone outside their closed world.

It's unfair to blame every Muslim for the crimes of a few; it is equally as unproductive for Muslims to remain silent when members of their culture express (or act out) extremism. It takes two to Tango and the Muslims need to become less inhibited about joining the dance.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 17 November 2014 10:24:15 AM
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Yuyutsu,

Yet again, the "we are perfect line", with a biased approach against the United Nations is used. One review on the page you refer to came from a site: "National Review". I check these sites/organisations to see what they stand for.

I read a mission statement article - no cent of credibility. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/223549/our-mission-statement/william-f-buckley-jr

Yuyutsu: "I do not recall saying that "we are perfect". You don't have to. It's a language factor, that being, "we" (those who are not Muslim) are 100% perfect, have never done anything wrong and then very conveniently stand a high moral ground and target others. No one seems to be answering this question on this page.

In my view its a very clever "denial" factor, because many don't like the lifestyles of people of a Muslim background - but very gladly appreciate having their own rights to do what they want.

I personally don't like the meat industry (it's criminal), being vegetarian - but I don't go around telling people (when around 95% of people in Australia eat meat). My parents don't like the fact I'm vegetarian - but I do want some basic respect - when I've never committed any crime.

In terms of other people and the United Nations being criminal, where in the documentary you refer to is:

1) Robert Mugabe who targeted Anglo Saxon farmers in Zimbabwe? One of my parents friends was shot by a government militiaman. She had to pick one of her intestines up off the ground and was told by a doctor she was lucky to be alive.

2) The killings that have occurred since outside military involvement since the September 11 attacks in America?

3) What about the insidious killings (totaling six million Jewish people) during the Holocaust?

No group of people or an organisation is 100% perfect, yet for a "high moral ground" reason, Muslim people are being unfairly attacked not just in Australia but also overseas.

This includes terrorism inflicted upon Muslim people by terrorists!
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 17 November 2014 12:50:59 PM
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NathanJ writes: This includes terrorism inflicted upon Muslim people by terrorists!

Should read - This includes terrorism inflicted upon Muslim people by MUSLIM terrorists!
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Monday, 17 November 2014 1:14:31 PM
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ConservativeHippie,

Your response conveniently ignores the fact, that (lets say a family in the Middle East) will very likely have nothing to do with a group of terrorists and have nothing to do with their acts.

The fact that they may be Muslim is therefore irrelevant. The innocent people are then dead or injured - and potentially gone from the face of this planet. You do not care?

It's like saying if someone has been sexually assaulted or abused within a christian church, and this innocent person is of the same religion, they are supposed to be somewhat responsible?

It doesn't make any sense does it?
Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 17 November 2014 1:24:12 PM
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NathanJ

'It's like saying if someone has been sexually assaulted or abused within a christian church, and this innocent person is of the same religion, they are supposed to be somewhat responsible? '

it is nothing like that Nathan. A person in a Christian church abusing a child knows it is straight out evil. Jesus actually tells them that they are better to drown themselves this perverse act. On the other hand the Muslim terrorist believes he/she is servingt Allah. They are following a wicked ideology they believe in.

Your comparisons do nothing but to cause people to stick their heads in the sand and deny that some ideologies and religions are as evil as non the secularism.
Posted by runner, Monday, 17 November 2014 1:45:19 PM
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