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The Forum > General Discussion > Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

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On The Beach,
The first link in your post was actually quite frightening.
It appears that even couples that are not related at all are still at risk if they come from
communities that are substantially inbred.
Also what surprised me was that even out to third removed cousins the risk is still quite significant.

It appears that any country that allows people from the middle east to migrate should
increase the services for handicapped children and as they become adults.
The politicians either do not know this or are frightened to discuss it.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 November 2014 7:48:07 AM
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In this country marriage between brother and sister are illegal.
The reason ? Because of the genetic problems involved.
In view of the scientific knowledge on genetics should not this law be extended out to
at least third removed cousins and unrelated couples from inbred communities.
The scientific knowledge now is such that the couples DNA can be examined and if
the Bittles factor as it is known is too high then marriage could be prohibited.

Such method is needed to protect the wider communities as well as the prospective parents.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 17 November 2014 8:18:27 AM
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Foxy,

That’s funny you mention podiatrist. I had a Muslim podiatrist also who I had been seeing for years. And guess what? She furked up my feet and tried to tell me that the pain I was feeling was a result of ageing. She subsequently fled Australia. I then tried another podiatrist and could not believe how much better my new orthotics were and my feet problems have since gone.

I do smile at people and have attempted at them. It can be hard to be kind sometimes. A lot of people these days avoid eye contact as there is fear instilled in them. Fear in society in general. I always prefer eye contact.

Foxy, tell me what are we without judgement? We all have to make judgements every day otherwise the human race could not survive.

I know a few Muslims who are fine. It is the mob Muslims who are the worry. And they are growing.

And your lack of attempt in understanding of the Islamic doctrine is careless. But you say that nobody has the right to judge Islam until they have studied for years at university. That is why you have been so INSTITUTIONALISED. So if you think this way, WHY have you not read or considered my link to Fr Samir, an Egyptian Jesuit who is a SCHOLAR of Islam? You never make any sense and are always full of contradictions.

It is clear you do not have Australia’s interest at heart and you are not interested in protecting Australia.
Posted by Constance, Monday, 17 November 2014 8:51:47 AM
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Foxy,

They threw rubbish on the road in the National Park.

As they are not into nature NOR animals.

A Syrian doctor told me recently (who made it clear from the start that he is Christian) that THEY are animals, desert people who have no history.
Posted by Constance, Monday, 17 November 2014 8:58:25 AM
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Hi o sung wu,

I’m nearing completion of a degree in criminology, but if that’s not authoritative enough for you, then I could point you in the direction of peer-reviewed literature on this subject. Google scholar is a good place to start (http://scholar.google.com.au/). Without university access, most articles there will expect you to pay for them, but there will certainly be some free articles that have links to the right of their search result that you can click in order to view them. You’ll still be able to at least read the abstract for many of the paid articles, however. There will also be some books that appear in the results that you would probably find at your state library if a free electronic version is not available. I can point you to some specific articles if you’d like; ones that have been written by former police or those who work closely with them.

As for your IQ, I wouldn’t dream of generalising in such a way. Your accusations of derision are unfounded. I did not come here to pick a fight. Your mentioning of low IQ's among police members gave me the impression that discussing IQ was not off limits. For what it’s worth, though, police nowadays generally don’t have low IQs. Police in Australia are smarter, more educated and more professional than they’ve ever been before. Regarding my cousin, for example, he has a degree in both criminology and law. He could become a lawyer if wanted (and is contemplating such a move), but really enjoys police work.

Now if you can share some of your experience to explain to me why anything I've said is wrong or would be embarrassing to a detective, than I'd be fascinated to hear your perspective. I suspect I already know what you’re talking about, however. As with Hasbeen, I suspect you’re equating contemporary policing strategies with cultural sensitivity and going soft on crime, and are referring to the frustration police can experience by the limitations that increasingly complex procedure can place on their ability to get the job done.
Posted by AJ Philips, Monday, 17 November 2014 9:23:58 AM
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Dear Foxy,

And why do you only consider your own personal experience with Muslims, what about their effect on other people? Seems a bit selfish. Don't you care about their negative effects on the communities in general?
Posted by Constance, Monday, 17 November 2014 9:32:16 AM
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