Foxy,
Will you now admit that Glenn Mahammed, in his article, was critical of muslims for not admitting that Islam has problems within. Muslims need to openly criticize radicals, as they bring Islam into disrepute, not remain silent and seemingly condone what they do.

No wonder most non muslims are highly critical of Islam.

Foxy, yes I was aware of the royal families of European countries and the practise for
a number of hundreds of years marrying their cousins.
It was the way to be sure they married into royalty.
It was not a very common practise by rural people as they were aware of the dangers of
inbreeding, being breeders of cattle.
However Mohammad told moslems that Allah told him that it was OK to marry their cousins.
They probably asked because their camel & horse breeders were unhappy with the practise.

The NSW Heath Dept and the Midlands Heath service in the UK are very aware of the
problem as a result of the deterioration of the children in those particular districts.
Both reports were sent to their respective parliaments but as usual the politicians
were too afraid to tackle the problem. Any area with a large moslem population will
have a higher percentage of children born with genetic problems, it is just the way it is.
Google NSW Hansard it was tabled some years back.

Dear Banjo,

The link is quite clear that Muslims need
to denounce barbaric behaviour and
the actions of extremists because it
does bring Islam into disrepute. That
was the point being made.

The same applies to other religions. Wrongs
need to be spoken against. For example the
sexual abuse of children within the
Catholic Church is horrendous and intolerable
and the failure of the Church to deal with
it effectively has done immeasurable damage to
the victims. The cover-ups, the protection of
abusive clergy, and the refusal to admit
egregious mistakes are unjustifiable.

Dear Bazz,

I'm pleased that you realise that marrying one's cousins
is not just something that occurs amongst only
one religion. Its always good to look at the
broader picture.

cont'd ...

Here's a link that points out the problems
to which you are referring in the UK:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394119/Its-time-confront-taboo-First-cousin-marriages-Muslim-communities-putting-hundreds-children-risk.html

Jay of Melbourne,

"The number of people killed in Jihadist attacks has increased dramatically since about 632 AD. We've been in a relatively quiet period since the late 1980's."

A quote, from Martin Luther King Jr. puts it well: "Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." This highlights the point I raised re the on-going cycle element with no real solution.

Also it does highlight where "we" (only target one element of society very conveniently) - that being those who happen to be called Muslim or Muslims and very conveniently ignore the actions of others - like for example in more recent years - (let's say, the study that compared the period between 11 September 2001 and the invasion of Iraq with the period since the invasion. The count -- excluding the Arab-Israel conflict -- shows the number of deaths due to terrorism rising from 729 to 5,420?)

Should "we" simply accept numbers like 5,420 deaths in this day and age? Surely "we" are smarter than that, but for some reason - people in high ranked positions can't come to any solution other than to use violence.

By the way, if you can provide a full list of details re your first quote, from deaths rising (since about 632 AD), and more details about the "relatively quiet period" re the late 1980's you refer to - I'd like to see the whole list and I'm sure many other people would be interested as well. It would be a good education point.

Foxy,
Agreed, It is hoped the churches and other groups completely eliminate peadophilia. I am given to understand that it is most common in societies that have common or same room sleeping arrangements.

Bazz,
Have you seen any stats in relation to cousin marriages in Aus. I cannot find any stats for treatment of FGM or forced marriages. It seems we are very slack in that area, or the polys don't want us to know. Why do we continue to allow imports of people from societies where sexual acts with children is part of the culture.