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The Forum > General Discussion > Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

Is there any hope that a Christian & secular based society, can peacefully co-exist with Islam?

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Constance, the anthem of the defeated and disgraced left, they saw the writing on the wall 20 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8szNPgrEs

Britain First march in Rotherham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHfiwkrSGOM

Ah, Moe Bulldogs, where are you now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV50yuIE_Yg
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 16 November 2014 2:18:15 PM
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Hi there AJPHILIPS...

Recently I was accused of being somewhat unkind and aggressive with some of my remarks, so I shall endeavour to remain as cordial as possible with much of what I say in future ? I see you're making quite a lot of statements about the policing industry and their methods ? Therefore I would respectfully ask what qualifications do you have, to underpin the veracity of your commentary ?

I'm very much from the old school, therefore it would appear prima facie, that according to you, I have a low IQ ? 'Mea maxima culpa' ('mine is the greatest blame') to that AJPHILIPS !

With the utmost respect, I would suggest you know little of how working detectives do their job ! Myself, I served for over 32 years in the police, and retired as a detective sergeant, probably a far lesser rank and status than your 'chuckling cousin', putatively a detective at Redcliffe (wherever that is?). As an aside, I would've thought your (police) cousin would've been profoundly embarrassed by much of what you've had to say (publicly), on this specific issue ?

Anyway, despite my inordinately low IQ, I think I've got a fundamental idea how the police force works certainly here in NSW ? And you my friend, obviously don't, as evidenced by your somewhat uncorroborated and derisible remarks. Anyway, I don't intend to waste further time with you, until you're prepared to enlighten us with your extensive policing background and law enforcement experience, as I've already requested of you. So it's now over to you AJPHILIPS ?
Posted by o sung wu, Sunday, 16 November 2014 2:31:06 PM
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Dear Constance,

I'm so sorry that you seem to have had
such bad experiences
with your neighbours, and people of the Muslim faith
in general. It's unfortunate that your experiences
seem to be only negative.

My experiences on the other hand differ greatly from yours.
And they have been only positive.
I've had Muslim doctors, Muslim carers, who looked
after my mother-in-law in her aged care facility.
My podiatrist is Muslim - and inter-acting with
all of them over the years - I have had nothing
but positive experiences.

Of course the recent anti-terrorism raids in Australia
could explain the lack of smiles on the Muslim faces
that you've encountered. Have you actually tried smiling at
people yourself? It just may make a difference.

I remember walking in a shopping mall and seeing a young
Sudanese guy walking towards me. He wore a frown and didn't
look very friendly at all. I managed to make eye-contact
and said "Hello," and smiled. Well, suddenly his face lit
up, he beamed at me, smiled, and said "Hello," back.

As for the dumping of rubbish and other gross
behaviour - et cetera. I guess we've
all encountered creeps like that. The worst hoarders,
and the untidiest and dirtiest neighbour's houses that
I've ever seen - were from the UK. Real grubs. We ended
up selling our home and moving from the neighbourhood.
Their sons were violent loud alcoholic roughnecks
whose idea of fun was to throw up on your car. And their
sport was breaking furniture.

And, of course I
wouldn't judge all Brits by these people. As I'm sure
neither would you.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 November 2014 2:33:49 PM
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Joe, yes we have all seen the professional British mensahb.
However it is never preached from the pulpit of Canterbury Cathedral that all the British
Empire is still and forever will be British.
Further more any action to take it all back is legal and is a duty to God.
The difficulty is all the moslems actually believe this as it is in the Koran as from Allah.
They dare not say that they do bot believe it is so.
To do so would make them an apostate. It would be legal to kill them.

I really do not know what is the best way to handle them. As a religious group that has
been marrying their cousins for generations we can perhaps understand their problem
and how it comes to be, but it does not help us to cope with them.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 16 November 2014 3:32:47 PM
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Dear Bazz,

England maintained cousin marriages for
centuries - including Queen Victoria
who married her first cousin, Prince Albert.

Google - royal cousin marriages - it just may surprise
you. Common practice apparently.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 November 2014 3:59:23 PM
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Hi there FOXY...

More often than not, as a matter of course I would disagree with much of what you say, when it comes to issues of politics, or world events that have deleteriously impacted upon us, here in Australia. Such as the topic that is now currently before us.

What I do find rather refreshing about you though, or your attitude to be more specific, is the positive 'viewpoint' you generally possess, either with people or events, such as this particular topic. To be precise, it was your last response (to CONSTANCE), that took my eye, to be honest.

Whereas, even the most magnanimous or indulgent individual, would generally be hard pressed to find too much sympathy or compassion for people of the Muslim faith. Especially after the events of the previous ninety days or so ? And particularly, post the murderous activities of ISIL and their 'ratbag' cohorts.

Yet, you can still find some 'good' (in your heart), for the very people who ostensibly, would seek to absolutely annihilate us, our culture, even our country ! I really admire your stance FOXY, I really do ! Politically speaking; there's you, POIROT, and to a lesser extent SUSEONLINE, all three of you are from the 'left' of politics.

Yet you FOXY, with your measured, very compassionate and tolerant clear thinking, give people like me (further 'right' than Genghis KHAN) pause to contemplate the fact, there're those of the 'left' who do possess a legitimate, worthwhile position too ! And, who are just as ethical as we are of the 'Right'? This conundrum does really confound me FOXY, it really does ? When generally, the 'left' are diametrically the natural foe of conservatism and they're far less amenable to anything approaching regulatory processes of the individual, than those of the more pragmatic 'Right' ? It's for this reason, I find your moral compass, somewhat meritorious and exemplary !
Posted by o sung wu, Sunday, 16 November 2014 4:15:48 PM
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