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The Forum > General Discussion > how to suceed succesion ..?..[lamb-island]

how to suceed succesion ..?..[lamb-island]

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thsnks..for the shockker..[the mens womans division..is for me the clue..of our future]..in our system..currently..peter beaty..and john howard..BOTH..gave each half a BILLION..each..for a magnesium plant in gladstone..JUST SO..SHAREHOLDERS..got dividends..for a plant..that never got built..

clever aint it..simply via men/womans..that..treasonous theft of satate and federal money..would have been halved..yes the..men..have mens business/gamblinmg..buying the morals from whores/travel nreeds/free lunches for the boys

..but the mother nurture[of the womans balance
is holding half the purse..that still feeds educates..

mate..the ideal system..runs ALL GOVT ..out of the local school's
IF..you need AnYTHING related to govt..or anyhelp at all
go to a school..there will be police docters teachers..way and means

you need a license..there we teach you..if your hungry..there we feed you..if your after a bed..the bed is here..if danger safty is here

federal-govbt pays..only by request from the school
but lamb isl dont got a school..so..i modified adapted my theory
[in my theory..the old and the young..are cared for nurtured..best together..so the school also becomes the ol folks home and police station..and hospital..etc etc..

just as schools are run..by association..the new association would be via two houses..[like upper and lower..but mens only..womans only..both finance their bit..from their own budget

see criminals reley..on getting away..ONCE*..with their crime
by my way..they have to do it TWICE..=twice the risk..of exposing their criminal acts..it just makers sense

ditto having LOCAL/govt centralized..the watchers are watching each other..helping each other..watching each others back..plus our kids and oldies backs too..instead of hiding away..in canberra or brissie..or redlands council.or late at night in the free-masons hideout

tear down..the hidden walls of secrecy
politicians make laws..now they made law..that will expose their own secrets..[not much difference between what bikies public servants/lobby and polies do
Posted by one under god, Monday, 7 October 2013 9:07:14 AM
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Yuyutsu, it sounds good in theory, but most people can't just up and leave for the helmet-free zone.
They have jobs, property, friends and relationships.

Much easier to campaign to remove such "oppressive" laws and policies with fewer governments, not more.

If you only have one government, you only need reform once.
Six governments, six reforms.
If you have 520, you have to fight the same battle 520 times!

one under god, the one-stop shop, eh?
Why not just build a gigantic building with everything inside, including residences and shops.
Nobody ever need leave the building!

Police? Floor 3. School? Floor 16. Supermarket? Floor 78.

We'll call it the Happy Box.
Posted by Shockadelic, Monday, 7 October 2013 11:58:55 PM
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<<..if you only have one government,..you only need reform once.>>

we dont..we have many headed hydra rule
be it local council bye laws..state restrictiveness..[like laws..that force people to take oath..for light or transienmt revenue raising..contra the instument..forced to swear upon./.[see matthew 5;33-37..,..23;16-24..james 5;9-12]

or federal bail-in's..federal wage taxation..federal compulsions..but mainly federal malfeasance..[like signing trade laws..that impose patent..way belong fair use..or signing treaties that..enforce force drug laws..against a plant./contra genesis 1;29]

WE ARE OVER GOVERNED..by omipotant..public sercvants
the truth..is its not the amounts of govt's..but the leeches living off the dead corpse..for a free lunch..enforcing obedience..in-lue of providing SERVICE*


<<Six governments,...six reforms.>>

if only..

<<..If you have 520, you have to fight..the same battle 520 times!>>

no once a succesfull model emerges..many will follow
but the egzistant ones..dont do it proprer way[by way of these lands..mens/womans..not upper/senet..not kings/queens..not police/courts..not lawyers making laws..to cleanup on legal aid..percicuting moralcrimes

criminal law[if you hurt other the duty to make right]
and statued civil law[law of contract..binding between equals/by informed concent..and mutual advantage/equalobligation]

<<the one-stop shop,..eh?>>

yep..via school districts..
who..do everything..councils /states..federal..MUST DO

<<Why not just>>

nothanks..give me clean water/fresh food companionship/governance that works..for its people./.not big business largess..and a money system..we dont need to continuously bail-out

<<..Nobody..ever need leave the building!>>

unless it hass become a real..and present danger
thats where govt now is..its become our biggest burden

<<..Police? Floor 3. School? Floor 16. Supermarket? Floor 78>>

just a police state mate.
the elites..protected from..the great unwashed..by kids
policing policy..not white collar-crime..[nor the law against debasing the queens coin*]..that is lawfully called treason

We'll call it the Happy Box.
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 5:32:11 PM
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<<..if you only have one government,..you only need reform once.>>

Oneundergod "we dont..we have many headed hydra rule"

Note the word "if".

I want a single government elected by proportional representation, enhanced by direct democracy.

*One* government that truly reflects the entire nation's perspective.
The elected representatives would not be there to impose their will, so much as formulate the appropriate response to direct democracy ballot results.
Any initiatives of theirs can also be overruled by the same public ballot process.

"WE ARE OVER GOVERNED..by omipotant..public sercvants"

And you think 520 governments will mean *less* bureaucracy?!

What of businesses that need to operate in multiple zones (e.g. trucking)?
Want to keep 15 different logbooks for the Brisbane-to-Sydney trip?

People on one side of a river can fish without a license, on the other side prohibited. Is this the "fair" system Australians deserve (or even *want*)?

What of a regional government who diverts all water from a river, depriving regions downstream of any? Remember, no higher authority to turn to.

<<..If you have 520, you have to fight..the same battle 520 times!>>

"no once a succesfull model emerges..many will follow"

They may follow (but you have to go through the same reform over and over again), but these are *independent* units you are proposing, with no superior authority.

They don't have to "follow" anyone else, nor consider the rest of Australia when making their own decisions.

"just a police state mate."

That's exactly what you'll create.
520 our-way-or-the-highway fiefdoms that are unconstrained by any other authority.
Posted by Shockadelic, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 11:47:10 PM
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many good points..[roads belong to..all of us..thus
cannot..be owned/privately..by king..nor corporation/state..
this..reveals the lie of..a private-toll-road..thats technically private..thus*..cannot be policed..[technically]

same thing..applies to our service pipes/wires etc
thats why.i claimed..them..on the peoples behalf..[in sun treaty]
there-in.i also made claim..upon all expired* patent/invention/text..or commons invention..waste and spoil

this solves many..of your concerns..
these may be ceded..for common use..by writing..it into..our charter documentations

<<..But these..are *independent*..units you are proposing,..with no superior authority.>>..i dont have a clue..what lamb island..is going to do..

but what i have done..or would do..[sure lamb island may succeed..but its doubtful..they will ever be independent..the proper power only rests..with the people..[and people not frightend..behave rationally

<<..Any initiatives of theirs.can also be overruled by the same public ballot process.>>

[yes or modified..but this process..can be set in stone..as being in near real time..[in my model..[at schools..it can be done overnight..by sending a vote/note/aid home..with the kids..who have a franchise duty..to serve others]

but lamb island..has no school?
but..does have..a manageable number..a dock a road and a shop..and telecommunication..[install a party line]

nor rivers..but
re that..vital infrastructure..we retain it federally..[pvia treaty]..to oversee..the big picture..underwrite its acces locally..

[its at the local level..we are abused..[thus the urgency..for a proper sheriff serving his charges..not revenue raising law]

[not state..not fed..
a local authority*..able to act locally..for preservation..of life or property..meeting immediate..and all mediated need..asp..

not just in-time..
or just too late..or on the never/never mate-rate]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 6:56:29 AM
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http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

4.Knowledge..can also/be..misinterpreted..as/a..means of..external possession...
[modifiers..of how..things/events/concept./.are perceived]

..Here,..the..[knowledge]..content..is not..physical,
and/the..underlying_fallacy..is more*likely/to..be the..confusion of/mind..and..the..will..initiated..via brain.

The/attempt..to unite..non-physical.content
with..physical/attributes..is illustrated..by/statements..like..“the/thirst..for knowledge.”

(No Helen,..this is NOT..what..the “thirst”..in the/Bible means.
The term..was used..only because of man’s..limited comprehension,..at that time..
and is/probably..better dropped...as..it..may miss-direct..from..the lesson)

<<..The..fallacious/fixated/obsessive/abusive..use/of knowledge
can..result/in..several errors,

including:
a...The idea..that..knowledge..will make.the individual..more attractive..to others...This is/a..possession-[obsessive/possessive-fallacy.]..via a perceived..lack.

b...The idea..that/knowledge..will*.make/the individual..invulnerable. This..is the..reaction/formulation..against..the underlying/fear..of vulnerability.

c...The idea..that knowledge..will make/the..individual worthy.
This..is largely..symptomatic/pathetic.

Both you..and B...should consider type 4)
very carefully...Like all these fallacies,..it/contains..a denial mechanism,..which swings..into operation..only..as the..fear increases,..thus/canceling-out..the error temporarily,..but seriously impairing..efficiency.

Thus,..you claim..you can’t..read,
and B...claims that/he can’t.speak...Note that depression
is.a..real risk here,..for a Child of God..should never/REDUCE his efficiency..in ANY way...by feeding falsity.

depression..comes/from..a peculiar.error
[material/ergo/ego..pseudo-solution]..which reads:..faulsity..A Child..of God..is efficient./I am/not efficient...Therefore,..I am..not..a Child..of God

This leads..to neurotic/resignation,
and this..is a state..which merely..INCREASES..the depressive falsity.

The..corresponding/denial-mechanism..for..1)[subjective..possesion
is..the sense of..PHYSICAL/inability,..or..useless/helpless/IMPOTENCE.

The..denial mechanism..for 2)[objective-possession]..is often moral-bankruptcy...Collectors..of things/trophies/honors/titles..often
drive..themselves..well/beyond..their financial-means.. in/an..attempt to..force..[drive away]..possession-discontinuance.

If..this idea/of..cessation..of investment..by/objectiveposesion..cannot/be tolerated,..
a strange compromise..involving..BOTH..insatiable possessiveness..and insatiable throwing-away..(bankruptcy)..[over/compensated avoidance]..may..negate..the will..

[or set of the drive..to..re-fill/..the perceived..artifice..of lack of]

find..the middle-path

<<Defenses..aimed at protecting/preserving..(or retaining)..error
are..particularly hard.to undo,..because/they..introduce second-order misperceptions..which obscure/the underlying..errors..still/further.

The pseudo-corrective..mechanism..of..point-three
is apt..to..be/more varied because..of the/more..intrusive/inclusive-nature..of the error,..which has already..been mentioned.

Some..of/the..possibilities.are listed below:
a.One aspect.of the possession/possessed..conflict
can/be..raised to..pre-dominance...If/this is..attempted..in connection with..possessing,..it leads to..the paranoid res-solution.

The..underlying component..of..“being possessed”..by outer forces..is retained..in the..“persecution”..fantasies,complexes..which are generally..co-commitments.

b.If..being possessed”..is brought..in-to..ascendance,
a state..of some/sort..of possession/by external forces results,..but NOT with/a major..emphasis..on attacking others.certainties.

Attack BY/others..becomes the more..obvious-component.
In..the more..virulent-forms,..there is a/sense of..being possessed by demons,..and unless there..is vacillation..with a),..a catatonic
stasis..solution..is more likely..than a paranoid one.

The FOCUSSED/paranoid..has become..more rigid/in..his solution,
and centers on/..ONE singular..source..of outer-projection..to escape from..the inner-vacillation.

(Aside:..It should/be..noted that this/type..of paranoia
is an..upside-down form..of religion,..because of/its..obvious attempt..to..unify into oneness.)

Both 1,2,..and..4 are..more likely..to/produce...neurotic..rather than psychotic states/though this..is by no means..guaranteed.

However,..3..[fear/desire..of possesion]..is inherently..more vulnerable..to the/psychotic correction,..again because/of..the more fundamental-level ..confusion which is-involved.

It..should/be..noted,..however,..that/the..greater fear..which is induced..by..[3]..can ITSELF..reach..psychotic proportions,..thus forcing..the_individual/closer..and closer..to-an/external..psychotic
solution.

It/is..emphasized/here..that/these_differences..have/no..effect at all..on/the miracle,..which_can heal.any-of them..with..*equal ease...usually..via revelation.

This/is..because-of..the miracle’s inherent..avoidance/of..[inner]..within-error..distinctions...Its..SOLE/concern..is to distinguish..between truth,..on the/one-hand,..and..ALL kinds of error,..on/the other.

This..is why..some..miracles/SEEM_to/be..of greater_magnitude..than others...But remember..the first point..in this/course,..i.e.,..that there..is/no order..of difficulty..in miracles...after..revelation..of its mean's.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 October 2013 5:29:19 PM
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