OK Blokes maybe we should retreat.
The lady,s are upset with our brand of free speech.
Maybe we should leave them to the cucumber sandwich and leave the Field of battle.
Unless we change tack,stop defending something they do not approve of, free speech mumble Allah Akbar and leave.

It is interesting repeatedly seeing examples illustrating my point continuing through this thread.

The peddlers are disingenuously grabbing statistics to propagate their poison then the ignorant and gullible consume them to reinforce their preconceived stereotypes.

For instance Philip S. writes;

“Another factor which is to me reasons for wanting them stopped... 85% still on welfare after being here over 5 years”

And Belly reacts in with; “your quoted figure that 85% remain on welfare is of concern.
I too think we are being defrauded by sections of the refugee/Migrant community,and our own on welfare.”

So where does the 85% figure come from? The pen of one of our greatest poison peddlers Mr Bolt. “85 per cent of refugees on Centrelink benefits in their first five years here”. Note here he was being a little more circumspect. That is because as the report from which he got his figures states;

“It must be understood that Centrelink payments are not only unemployment benefits but also include Youth Allowance, Austudy and child care rebates.”

So what is what is the unemployment figure, those receiving unemployment benefits from our humanitarian refugees after 5 years?

Answer 12.6%

I will admit that it is not ideal and virtually double that of the rest of the country, but the fact that many have limited English and other issues like health when they get here I don't think it is too dramatic.

The number directly employed in their first year is around 20% but within the first few years this quickly doubles to around 40%.

One should remember even the number of skilled migrants receiving Centre Link benefits is nearly 30%.

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-arrivals.pdf

Poison peddlers!

I take it csteel, by your refusal to answer a few very simple questions that you answer "YES" to all of my questions. Now we know just who you are & exactly what you stand for.

See, if you say no,& you do, you are deigning Allah & that would be
a xin in Islam, wouldn't it? Your friends would have to come around & cut your head off, wouldn't they? Now that was easy, wasn't it? ;-)

Now we know just who the real "poison peddler" is, don't we?

Excellent, Jayb,

You construct many strawmen questions...and then (!) you answer them yourself in the affirmative!

How illuminating : )

Poirot: You construct many strawmen questions...and then (!) you answer them yourself in the affirmative!

How is that a strawman question poirot. It's a valid question, there is no trickery. They are simple, straight forward & to the point & only require a yes or no answer. Any 4 year old could answer them. If csteel refuses to answer then "One can only Presume to Assume." as the old saying goes.

I pose the same questions to you dear poirot. Will you answer them? I think not.

1. Do you believe in the Qur’an?
2. Do you want Sharia Law in Australia?
3. Do you believe in Jihad for Australia?
4. Do you want Australia to become an Islamic Caliphate?

Jayb,

Further reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man