Until comparatively recently our free speach laws were not a problem.
No one ever mentioned them or discussed them.
It has all changed, now everyone seems to be worried if something they
might say will offend someone.
Did all this start with, OH you cannot have Santa or Christmas decorations
because someone might be offended.
I wonder if the someone could be moslems ?
If not who ?

Is it not time to say, if you don't like it, tough !
It is has got to the state where the government is going to legally gag us.

Dear Jay,

I'm back from hospital recovering from a most
unpleasant procedure and my apologies as I
don't want to argue at great length with you.
Suffice to say that I can see we're not going
to see eye-to-eye on this issue. I judge
people as I find them. Tarring everyone with
the same brush does not allow for individual
differences. Fundamentalists can be found in any
religious group - not only Muslims.

Dear Bazz,

A person must be both stupid and uncharitable
who believes there is no virtue or truth but on
his own side. I don't believe that you're such a man.

Philip s while we do not get on, such is life, your quoted figure that 85% remain on welfare is of concern.
I too think we are being defrauded by sections of the refugee/Migrant community,and our own on welfare.
But if you are right,and I am not saying you are not, this is a betrayal of us all.
Any links?
And while wasting my time, to point out a few, on one side of the debate, not all sides, to in effect want to stop free speech? what next csteele. Poirot?
Do these exponents of harnessing a fools right to free speech, do you folks agree with the quick death that would come in say North Korea if some spoke the truth.
Or is this thread strictly about Muslim rights?

Belly - Do a search for "settlement outcomes of new arrivals" You should find it will be the first result.

Further from Denmark the Government issued a report suggesting migrants from non-Western countries cost the state $3.5 billion a year, while those from the West contributed $450 million in taxes. Now you see why Wilders was so concerned.

Lexi: I'm back from hospital recovering from a most unpleasant procedure and my apologies as I don't want to argue at great length with you.

I sincerely hope all went well & I'm sure you'll be feeling better in no time.

Lexi: Suffice to say that I can see we're not going to see eye-to-eye on this issue. I judge people as I find them.

I do to Lexi. It's not the individual that is the problem but a group of individuals that make a mob. Except in the case of PC, where a group if individuals haven't got the guts to stand up against one PC nutcase.

Lexi: Tarring everyone with the same brush does not allow for individual differences. Fundamentalists can be found in any religious group - not only Muslims.

Oh I agree with you whole heartedly. One only has to look at the Christian Fundamentalists (especially in America) to see a big problem. Some friends of mine went on a paid evangelist trip to America. They stayed with local Baptist Church people. Their house & the houses of these peoples friends were armed nightmares. All they ever talked about was the Coming of Jesus to save them from all the other Christian Groups, Anti- Christs & The Government coming to get them. Apparently the Basement of the house was filled with explosives & arms of every description. They have since ceased to be Baptists.

Hi csteel, Piorot, & other like minded folk. Still haven't answered any of my questions csteel. Piorot & others if you would like to answer the questions, please feel free. I feel that it's very rude & not at all PC to ignore my reasonable request.

Once again here are the questions.

1. Do you believe in the Qur’an?
2. Do you want Sharia Law in Australia?
3. Do you believe in Jihad for Australia?
4. Do you want Australia to become an Islamic Caliphate?

Simple, straightforward, to the point. Will you answer, “yes” to all of these or will you deflect the questions.

This is an interesting debate from the BBC about this very subject...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfxNG_TM8J4