Crackcup
"...blinded as are many by the almighty dollar!"

It's you who's blinded by the almighty dollar more than anyone. You're the one who wants the animals slaughtered to a certain standard. Guess what? You're not God's self-appointed representative on earth. Why don't you, and Ammonite, and everyone who agrees with you, simply pay the difference between the standard of slaughter now, and the standard you want? Problem solved.

And for those talking about the standard for "our" cattle, they're not "your* cattle, they belong to someone else. If the greed, selfishness and sheer hypocrisy of the Crackcups of this world are such that they are not willing to pay for standards they passionately believe in, why should anyone else who doesn't even agree with them?

I saw a doco once where they wired up a living cabbage with electrodes to a read-out panel, and a guy sunk a meat-cleaver into it. This thing screamed off the dial.

So if I don't like live vegetables being pulled out of the ground, following your logic, does that mean the entire farming industry should be shut down, does it?

Yours is *fake* moral superiority. *You* need to pay for the values that you say are so important, and get everyone else who agrees with you to put into the hat, and there will be *no problem* financing the small changes that need to be made, if only you will practice what you preach and cut out your ostentatious pious hypocrisy. And if you won't, then a fart in your general direction is all you deserve and you should be ignored.

Crackup/cuphandle your views get more extreme as you age.
You not those you target, are no help to these cattle if they are ours or another country's.
It would be a deliberate lie, to say I look to you for other than heated comments.
Or that I do not look to you for answers.
YOU no one else unleashed the racist rant here.
In fact the thread as is the case with the film is of worth.
We will fix this problem.
But not by insisting [who can order a customers to buy ] we do the killing.
Or that we only sell a product they no longer wish to buy, chilled meat.
Education training both will fix this problem.
Not using terms like Monkeys, and ranting about religion then trying to charge others with your crime.

*The only way to combat it is to refuse trade or to export frozen meat.*

Ah, now there is a typical public servant from Canberra response,
Pelican! You should leave the place a bit more often.

Never mind the valid points made, never mind the consequences
or the unintended effects, we'll just bludgeon our way through
this and then get back to our chardonay.

Peter Hume, Belly:

Well I guess I must have touched a few raw nerves
to elicit the sort of responses that are coming
thick and fast now!

You can carry on like a bunch of little girls with
your knickers down if it makes you feel any better,
but I would suggest that criticism and abuse will
do little to solve the subject of this Thread.

In my view after reading your responses, I think I
would have more chance of getting an intellectual
discussion from a cage full of Chimpanzees!

It never fails to amaze me that whenever somebody
initiates a Thread dealing with an emotive issue,
the usual gang of know-alls and habitual critics
leap aboard to try to take control of the Thread and
manipulate the context of it around to their way of
thinking!

I consider that I have made my point in this issue,
and I will NOT desist from trying to obtain a better
deal for those unfortunate animals, regardless of what
you or anyone else may think to the contrary, and as
I said before,....If you don`t like it then suck it up!

"A product others no longer wish to buy" - not so, others would simply prefer to buy live cattle for a much lower price than chilled beef. Australian Companies killed off the bulk of the Meat Processing plants simply to cater to this desire, with no interest or concern as to the way the Cattle would be killed as a consequence.

But the majority of Countries in our region have no option BUT to import Sheep/Cattle/Goats, they simply do not raise enough themselves. They are a necessary import - regardless of whether they are killed here or killed there. The only stakeholders that stand to make anything from maligning our Meat Processing standards are those that make massive profits (comparatively) through live export as opposed to selling to Australian Packing Companies.

Everyone thought that was alright, well until the reality of what that actually means for the animals was bought to light. The 4 Corners show didn't even illustrate the inhumane treatment of the animals en route or the massive number that are crippled or die due to the same.

Then again, there are others here who will argue against anything that means jobs for Australian workers, under whatever cover they can hide behind.

Err Custard, clearly you don't follow the industry too closely.
When companies like Wammco, Fletchers and others, were screaming
for workers,year after year, they could not find any. They rely on 457 workers
to keep them going.

Why? Aussies don't want those jobs, when they can head for the
mining industry and earn 6 figures, with their arse on a machine.