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Will This Cruelty Ever Stop?

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Banjo sorry mate you are not taking the whole matter in to your considerations.
One this was not never will be Halal killing, Muslims are telling us what we already knew.
Second price is every thing.
Our cattle, unfortunately,are now too expensive for many in that country.
If we open Abattoirs what happens to those in existence now.
Would we close one or 11 of ours to let another country take over the trade?, Indonesia like every country has its pride.
Price,we are content with our sale price Australian live stock exporters fund education,but how much would it cost to build killing places here.
Would Indonesia pay the new inflated costs.
Out current system has been assaulted,this will bring fire in the belly and see training brings results.
Now the world knows I do not want most Muslim migration.
Bigoted ? well so be it, but for the very reasons I do not want it,we must not blindly judge every thing about them in the country they come from.
I since this thread should have matched both near it, gone well past.
But that pure bigotry has stifled the wish to contribute to the hottest story in Australia.
It is dreadful but find answers not panic.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 5:35:27 AM
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Belly, the answers are quite simple.

Impliment a set of standards as to the treatment of Australian cattle, in both handling and slaughter and have these premises monitored.

Bottom line is, if you wish to slaughter our cattle and sheep or even pigs etc, then you do it humainly, or you go elsewhere.

After all, we are already subsidising these places so there is no reason why we can't oversee what goes on with the use of cctv monitors.

One serious breach, one month ban.

Second breach, one year ban

Third breach, game over.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 7:22:03 AM
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What seems to have been lost in the fog of this discussion, is
that MLA has in fact started to roll out stunning boxes, using
stun guns, in Indonesia. So far at 5 works, another 5 about to
start. The plan was to continue this roll out, but MLA funds
are limited by grower levies. They could speed things up with
a bit of help.

So my suggestion is this: Speed up the roll out of another 20
or 30 stun gun boxes. Sell the cattle only on condition that
Australian cattle go through those works, who use them. Station
an Australian in Indonesia to oversee that our terms of humane
slaughter are complied with.

Shutting the trade down and trucking cattle to Adelaide, as is
being suggested, is a lose lose situation for everyone, including
the cattle.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 9:29:24 AM
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The expected and predictable performance has
begun: "Minister Ludwig to SUSPEND shipment of
live cattle to 11 Indonesian abattoirs shown
committing acts of cruelty on the 4 Corners
video on Monday night!"

We have all heard this auditory performance many
times before over the years since the Live Export
Trade in animals began. The problem is that talk
is cheap, but actions speak louder than words!

We need to see genuine efforts by all concerned
in an effort to prevent further cruelty being
inflicted in the name of Overseas Trade.

These issues have in the past simply reverted to
the way it was, once the public indignation and
scrutiny eased, leaving the people falsely thinking
that steps had been taken to rectify the situation,
whilst in truth, the matter had simply been swept
under the carpet, and out of the public view!

Pressure MUST be applied to ensure genuine
action this time around, even if it does mean the
loss of this morally questionable overseas market.

I have noticed that a deathly silence exudes from
the cloisters of the RSPCA and the animal libbers
groups,...maybe this is too big an issue to risk
getting involved and thus risk the wrath of the big
cattle marketers?
Posted by Crackcup, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 9:29:36 AM
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Stop Live Export.

Anywhere.

Nothing more need be said.
Posted by Ammonite, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 9:38:57 AM
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Dear CC,

I too was horrified at what was shown on the Four Corners program.
To me it all seemed so unnecessary and cruel. Surely there is a
more humane way of dealing with the kiiling of animals - such cruelty is barbaric. RSPCA and other animal welfare organisations in this country should apply pressure on our government to see that this kind of behaviour is stopped and stopped immediately.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 9:40:29 AM
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