The big polluters are always going to be against a tax on pollution SM. So what ?.
Even if only 25% support a carbon tax as you claim, that would be only on the basis of them paying nothing more than they are now,
and that the tax be passed on to the taxpayer.

The true courage of our leadership today for Australia, will be be that we make the polluters pay, in order that we achieve the goal of reducing our carbon footprint, and thereby encourage more environmentally friendly solutions to meeting our immediate and future requirements.

I can't see that there is anything wrong with this, (even if climate science seems a little tilted to some people), that we as the dominant species should naturally endeavour to co-exist with our planet in the most sustainable way possible.

The consumer as well, must be accepting of the fact that they also, must do their bit,
by reducing our individual footprints and paying the price for our own behaviour.

Whether the PM is male, female, black, blue or brindle, it will take courage to get this ball rolling.
I'll be voting for whomever shows the most bottle in favour of a sustainable future for us all.

recall in govt there is allways the one who is cool
and the one who is the fool[think howard and beastly]

or the nsw liberal who is so silent
and will get in by saying/doing nothing

its how you plkay the game
just like with cricket or footy
the game is won or lost by the selecters

sel;ect who runs
you seklect who plays out the next part of the game

here is a good game going down in usa
a govener trying to remove the right to bargain collectivly
[i have posted previous links on this tussel]

Bank that funded Walker,..[that govener
hating collective bargaining]..now Closed

Firefighters in Wisconsin
marched to the M&I bank earlier today in Madison
and withdrew their money. In total they took an estimated $192,000.

They asked others to follow their lead.
Apparently others did.

Just updated:

A call to M&I's Capitol Square branch
confirms the bank is closed for the rest of the day.

This is how you protest.
http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/03/wisconsin-protesters-target-bank-that.html

Webmaster's Commentary:
Shut down the system by any means possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQwsyF4dxIM

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http://dailybail.com/home/the-165b-bank-bailout-that-will-never-be-paid-back.html

http://uruknet.com/?p=m75817&hd=&size=1&l=e

Groundbreaking New UN Report on How to Feed the World's Hungry: Ditch Corporate-Controlled Agriculture

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/groundbreaking-new-un-report-on-how-to.html

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The Greens are trying to promote this image of "the big polluters" being these fat cats emitting CO2 and rubbing their hands over a pile of money.

The generators are simply converting fossil fuel energy to electricity, and matching their output to the demand of the consumers, who are households and businesses. They will simply pass the costs of generation on to consumers. The consumers are the ones that will have to bear the cost and hopefully consume less power.

The house holds are indirectly the polluters and if shielded from electricity costs are not going to change their behaviour.

The brown coal power stations have had their capital paid for long ago, and newer less polluting stations (using more expensive fuel) would need a huge carbon tax to make them competitive.

Finally, the households while keen to cut emissions are not keen to be the only ones in the world making sacrifices.

the landline program, reported on the greenhouse polutant nitrous oxide[300 times worse than co2]

it might be on this link
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2010/s3162720.htm

if not it will be on this one
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2010/s3162717.htm

anyhow about one third of all nitrogen applied to farms gets turned into nitrous oxide..[300 times worse per part than one part of co2]

there followed this report
with a guy who talked sense re carbon tax etc

he revealed some scary info..scary as in
it costs 20 trillion to remove .0001 percent of co2
so clearly taxing it ..is of no use whatsoever

thus the tax is a fraud..a clear scam

he said we would be bettter off
putting our money into research..
to find alternatives..

this would require l;ess than we are wasting on solar scams
and the solar hotwater subsidies..that do little or nothing

only needing of arround a billion per year

this link links to part one
also interesting
http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2010/s3156370.htm

these links deserve their own topic

Thinker 2 ok I agree, but lets not forget the hip pocket nerve.
When we spoke of an ETS ,and thought the west would get one too, far less did not agree it was a good idea.
FEW Australians get involved in understanding the issue.
Gillard seems to think she has us under control, it was a miserable failure from her, leaving the door open for Abbott's fear campaign not to have her plan on the table.
Now understand, we must tell those uninformed in every detail what is proposed and why.
Yes if we put this tax on our carbon we do little to reduce the worlds out put.
We however cut the emissions of one of the worlds worst, by head of population emitters, Australia.
If our ONLY ACT,was too introduce Nuclear power here, we would reduce our carbon footprint by many times what all other actions will do.
We are not Japan, not in earthquake zone and not using 1970,s technology's.
Solar, OUG without receiving the too good 60 cents per unit I can wipe my power bills completely using solar and pay the total costs to me back in 3 years.
The question about lies and tax is secondary, is Abbott's idea going to cost tax payers more or less will it work, and most important is climate change science true?
In the background ABC news 24, that is 6 hours news repeated 4 times , Abbott is raving and ranting yet again, this time about boat people.
If he had an answer if in government it would be ok, but his side of politics like mine are weary of little red riding hood and her big bad wolf.
Sorry but it needs saying, Greens are more dangerous to Labor than conservatives under Abbott.
And a close look will confirm they at best can spoil but never rule this country, with 15% support those against them are 85% they feed conservatives.
Labor must not do a conservative, take the party's directions and politics as Abbott has done with one nation.

you are not alone in loving a feedin tarrif
of 60 cents..on top of getting a freegift
subsidy of 5 grand worth of solar cells..

yes its a great lurk
but mate hetre is the deal
what would happen if we all put in for it?

is it fair those too poor
to put up two grand to get in on the scam
should HAVE TO ...PAY FOR YOUR POWER BILLS

i couldnt live with the guilt mate
it just seemed something was wrong with a deal
that sounds too good to be true

where does the 5 grand come from
from govt taxing workers

where does the 60 cents come from
from old pensioners barely surviving on cat food
living in the dark..unable to run even a fan when its hot

here in qld its only 40 cents
[ok 50 cents if your an origen customer]
nsw stopped theirs..[as all govts should

isnt it enough you got 5000 worth
of gifts just getting the solar
you also want free power for life

some would say what cheek[but not me..i just couldnt handle the guilt]

and at night you get free power
from the mugs paying for everything
paying for the lines and the power
you get for free

and..[it still comes from coal]
so there is extra guilt

but some love money..so much
they get money..even in being greedy and bludging..
[free beer..sorry power]..

off their mates
straight from their mates pocketts