I hope the unfolding nuclear disaster in Japan will waken the pro nuclear group here to the folly that nuclear power is. I think not.
Good to see Labor is in bed with the Conservatives the so called 85%. Labor and their supporters want to stop blaming the Greens for there down fall and start looking within. Federally Labor are a bunch of misfits and at the State level borderline criminal!
As I said to a Greens Senator on Friday night "If you ever deliver a speech like the sycophantic Gillard delivered to the US Congress I'll dis-own the party."
Time is running out wake up!

Paul I do not intend to insult you or annoy you.
in my 66th year, I suspect you are much younger.
I too was once a very active left supporter.
Even, as was the fashion Communist for a short period of my youth.
Then Socialist time has told me some truths.
That 85%, swinging voters are said to be 12%.
But say 85% of us know who we will vote for the day after the last election, fixed on greens will vote green Labor/Liberal .
Some will turn half way in to their life, but still know years ahead of an election who gets their vote.
The 15% will be the ones who make our government, not you or me

In NSW Saturday after the next, Labor will be thrashed and trashed, no better chance ever existed for greens to make an impression.
Are you prepared to put a number to your total vote?
Not giving preferences to Labor will hurt you, let the unsure see Greens are not Labor friendly, just using us.
My thoughts are if only average Aussie understood we would have an ETS now, in place and working, if the greens had voted for it.
They in fact wanted much more pain for this country more tax , my party must not become the path to power for yours.
Labor won government in 1983 by moving to the voters not away from its roots ,our future is death or independence from the greens radicalism.
OUG you did not read my post, without the 60 cents I can buy enough solar to power my home.
And repay my costs in three years, by not paying $2.000 a year power bills governments give billions in subsidy's to the rich why not solar power for the poor?
Nuclear energy is our future.
How Paul, like you bloke but just how can you compare Japans system its poor fuel out dated and risky system and its earth quake zone with us?
Is it not true your team says using coal must stop, do we burn wood then?

Paul,

With regards the Nuclear reactors, of the tens of thousand killed by the earth quake and Tsunami, how many deaths are attributed to the nuclear reactors?

These reactors from the 70s are not built to modern codes, but are still far safer than the Chernobyl reactors. Even if a full melt down does occur, the containment vessels are likely to limit the emission of radiation to a minuscule fraction of that from the Chernobyl disaster.

The worst case scenario has happened, a monster earthquake, followed by a tsunami destroying the back up systems, and still no apocalypse.

ok belly
we seem to have a hard time explaining things
and i have a hard time reading things..[like this]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1350811/In-China-true-cost-Britains-clean-green-wind-power-experiment-Pollution-disastrous-scale.html

it would be nice if there was an easy solution
[but mate there isnt]each side has their own form of blindness

i dont mind the nuke option
we dont need to go the way of the bad nuke option
[there are other nuke options that dont go into meltdowns]
nor make bomb material..[but like everything else..the worst option 'won'..the nuke race]

just as the worst options ..won this time
with solar and wind

mate my electricty bill is under 60 bucks..[240 a year]
an invester could put solar on my roof and get a return[for 20/30 years]..thats how long they will last..[coal fired stations last longer]..lol

there are so many options

[like browns gas]..HH0..
that implodes...not explodes
it sucks the piston up instead of pushing it down
[it costs under 100 bucks to make]and costs nothing to run

all you need do to run an internal combustion moter with it
is advance the timing 25 degrees...so it implodes on the upstroke..not the down-stroke..

but mate no more petrol bills
[no more big money to the petro chemical monoploy]

electicity can also be made from generators
driven by magnetic attraction alone..but no coal needed
[no coal proffits to the coal miners lobby]

there are plenty of cures that cost near nothing
if only govt was serving the people
[we all would get energy for free]

but not even a labour or greenie party will do it
think on why they wont..[who are they really serving?]
not the people..get it?

because in this world[satans realm..
only the bad idea wins...

[everytime]

i too have studied poli-tricks
and yes 85 percent are rusted onto their party for good or bad
but the powers that be know this

thus use the numbers to take over other parties
i first saw this when the nationals took over the labour party
[and got rid of tom burns and bill hayden]

since then i have seen it with the greens
and the hemp party..[if only to get in bad policy]

it dosnt even restrict itself to political parties
lets face it any organised group can rule the roost
like say farmers taking over the nats

or unions taking over labour
or even creating their own party

or creating a new party like one nation etc

any group can do this
thus labour banned all groups
insurance agencies trippled things like public liability
so many organised groups simply shut down..lets face it things like the rsl or lions..apex or the masons

or any group with like minds
[like solar or insulation mob..
can make their play at any party level]..

and if all else fails can use the weight of lobby[or media]
or just money [its all just too easy]

THATS WHY i hate em all..!

why ya think sports-clubs get great funding
so they can man the booths ..at voting time
or so polititions ..can get at the kids

Japan has for a very long time been criticized for risk taking with its Nuclear power stations.
As has been said, it took a near record earth quake, in fact the resulting huge tsunami to do harm.
No deaths yet, may not be any Australia will build them India and China have, I believe, about 70 between them.
Coal, not saying we should not use or sell it, is the biggest emitter I know of.
I have far more faith OUG in politicians than you.
While we are poorly served now I see no plots .
Of interest, in this thread a few posts up I reported Tony Abbott in the last few days, said he agreed with the science of climate change.
Was it yesterday? in WA he said the science is unproved.
Who was talking when, what thought was from a written speech, liar is a word Tony should avoid.